If Vulpera are going to be playable and we already got shafted with lightforged and void elves as races they better make man'ari playable already
06/24/2018 08:52 PMPosted by Jerrià h06/24/2018 08:35 PMPosted by Caféaulait...
Show me where Sethrak have unique Heart of Azeroth animation.
I have been civil until people constantly attack me. If you wanna report me, go ahead.
http://bfa.wowhead.com/sethrak-race-in-voldun
Thank you sir.
Out of respect, I'll bow out of anymore argumentative engagements.
06/24/2018 08:35 PMPosted by CaféaulaitShow me where Sethrak have unique Heart of Azeroth animation.
Of course, that's fair. It should be expected that one can back up their claims.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/420341918866604063/434588764946300928/SethArtOff25.gif?width=959&height=540
Its listed as "ArtOffLoop" in the animations, which is the animation used for Heart of Azeroth and only the confirmed allied races, Vulpera, and Sethrak have those animations. Its a unique animation specifically for the Hearth of Azeroth and races that do not acquire the Heart of Azeroth do not have them.
This is but a single point of evidence. Anyway, there is your proof that they have the animation, a gif of it as well as what it is listed as in the game files(same name as all the other races who have a Heart of Azeroth animation)
06/24/2018 08:35 PMPosted by CaféaulaitI have been civil until people constantly attack me. If you wanna report me, go ahead.
From the posts I have seen from you, civil is a bit of a stretch. Most of your posts have had underlying 'tude, especially when others questioned or disagree with you. Even now, with your response you are having an attitude.
All I am saying is for your benefit and the benefit of others reading this thread. It is not going to be Sunday forever and the last thing I want to see is a thread on how broken the report system is because people refused to heed good advice... there are already too many of those threads as is and they always lead to extended vacations...
My suggestion is that you think very carefully about how you want to move forward before you let your attitude drive you to saying something you may regret. Everyone has been there and I say this for your benefit, nothing more.
Edit: Bah, spent too much time typing my post up. Someone else beat me to it.
Skeleton does have Artifact animations. It does not have ArtOffLoop. Of the Dressing Room NPCs, all playable races have ArtOffLoop. Gilneans have ArtOffLoop. Vulpera have ArtOffLoop. That's all. (Amusingly, ArtOffLoop is still missing from the female Zandalari Troll, heh.)
Of regular NPCs that have ArtOffLoop, we have Rexxar (animations derived from Kul Tirans), we have Quillboar Brutes (animations derived from Tauren), and we have Sethrak... animations derived from N/A. Tortollan do not have it, Blood Trolls do not have it, Murlocs do not have it, etc.
So the speculation stems from this animation being given to these races, fully animated (it's not like the Vulpera has a broken tail like in their Joust animation) without any clear reason why they would spend the time to do so..
Of regular NPCs that have ArtOffLoop, we have Rexxar (animations derived from Kul Tirans), we have Quillboar Brutes (animations derived from Tauren), and we have Sethrak... animations derived from N/A. Tortollan do not have it, Blood Trolls do not have it, Murlocs do not have it, etc.
So the speculation stems from this animation being given to these races, fully animated (it's not like the Vulpera has a broken tail like in their Joust animation) without any clear reason why they would spend the time to do so..
06/24/2018 08:35 PMPosted by Caféaulait
Show me where Sethrak have unique Heart of Azeroth animation.
http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=132346/sethrak#modelviewer:10+0
ArtOffLoop in this model is the one you're after, plus it's straight from WoWHead and their model viewer stuff is straight from the game.
You'll need to select another animation, then back to ArtOffLoop. Not sure why, I think WoWhead's model viewer is a bit janky sometimes.
It actually has a whole bunch of cool animations, be sure to check them out
Also, just thought to say this, while the Vulpera Mega Thread is an awesome place to come together and discuss all things Vulpera I do also want to point out that they have a pretty sweet Discord where you can find logs of data mined information for both Vulpera and Sethrak as well as pretty active and lively discussion on Vulpera, Sethrak, and BfA.
Its a good place to find much of the compiled information gained so far and discussion of it.
So if any of you are interested in looking into the Discord you can find it at the link below!
http://discord.gg/VWtmNME
Just for anyone who is not yet familiar with the Discord!
Its a good place to find much of the compiled information gained so far and discussion of it.
So if any of you are interested in looking into the Discord you can find it at the link below!
http://discord.gg/VWtmNME
Just for anyone who is not yet familiar with the Discord!
06/24/2018 11:52 PMPosted by ByucknahAlso, just thought to say this, while the Vulpera Mega Thread is an awesome place to come together and discuss all things Vulpera I do also want to point out that they have a pretty sweet Discord where you can find logs of data mined information for both Vulpera and Sethrak as well as pretty active and lively discussion on Vulpera, Sethrak, and BfA.
Its a good place to find much of the compiled information gained so far and discussion of it.
So if any of you are interested in looking into the Discord you can find it at the link below!
http://discord.gg/VWtmNME
Just for anyone who is not yet familiar with the Discord!
Thank you. I should probably link that more
I really hope we get some lore regarding Vulpera learning or have already learned how to channel the light because I want some Vulpera priests and paladins.
It seems entirely feasible to me that a race that lives in the desert would venerate the sun as a deity, and may draw on the light the same way the Tauren do. (Entirely speculative though)
It seems entirely feasible to me that a race that lives in the desert would venerate the sun as a deity, and may draw on the light the same way the Tauren do. (Entirely speculative though)
How about them getting their light powers through the worship of the Sun? I'd prefer them to get their light powers through that, or Loa worship. Would put them closer to Tauren (Sunwalkers) or Zandalari Trolls (Prelates).06/25/2018 01:43 AMPosted by EeveeI really hope we get some lore regarding Vulpera learning or have already learned how to channel the light because I want some Vulpera priests and paladins.
It seems entirely feasible to me that a race that lives in the desert would venerate the sun as a deity, and may draw on the light the same way the Tauren do. (Entirely speculative though)
Maybe that's just me though. I find it preferable over generic Alliance light worship.
Edit: I somehow missed you saying exactly what I said in the first part of my sentence. Uh derp.
Vulpera Pallys? Yes please!
06/25/2018 02:11 PMPosted by ĂeroVulpera Pallys? Yes please!
I am crossing my fingers so hard for this also!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/172810954143301632/458520361647079434/World_of_Warcraft_2018-06-19_01-32-56.mp4
The jump animation is not activating all the time as you can see here. Itâs similar to worgen and nelf flips or belf twirls. Keep in mind npcs rarely jump and even when you use a toy to lets say turn into a naga, it doesnât have a jumping animation let alone a second special one.
The jump animation is not activating all the time as you can see here. Itâs similar to worgen and nelf flips or belf twirls. Keep in mind npcs rarely jump and even when you use a toy to lets say turn into a naga, it doesnât have a jumping animation let alone a second special one.
06/25/2018 01:43 AMPosted by EeveeIt seems entirely feasible to me that a race that lives in the desert would venerate the sun as a deity, and may draw on the light the same way the Tauren do. (Entirely speculative though)
Entirely speculative! Fully supported, by me!
Praise the Sun!
Well there was that time they had a paladin charger spell attached to them back in alpha....
06/25/2018 06:40 PMPosted by ShenhuaWell there was that time they had a paladin charger spell attached to them back in alpha....
I remember that, but I don't put too much weight on that as actual evidence since new entries to the PC/npc table tend to get a lot of weird flags. I'll probably scream though if datamining turns up a hyena mount in fancy gold armor
Seemed like a good time to bump this.
Re: heritage armor.
Since most Vulpera seem to be sporting a similar looking outfit that is 100% player wearable we can reasonably assume the heritage armor will be based on that.
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/727903-meerah.jpg
Re: heritage armor.
Since most Vulpera seem to be sporting a similar looking outfit that is 100% player wearable we can reasonably assume the heritage armor will be based on that.
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/727903-meerah.jpg
06/26/2018 12:20 AMPosted by EeveeSeemed like a good time to bump this.
Re: heritage armor.
Since most Vulpera seem to be sporting a similar looking outfit that is 100% player wearable we can reasonably assume the heritage armor will be based on that.
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/727903-meerah.jpg
Thats a fair assumption of what it would probably be.
Also, for anyone who wants to stay up to date on all things Vulpera please consider checking out their awesome Discord community here!
The Vulpera Hype Caravan!
http://discord.gg/VWtmNME
Also, Hello to everyone in the Welcome-to-the-caravan Channel!
/waves at Altherius and the others
I have never posted on the forums before, and I have been playing WoW for less then a year. So, people can criticize me for being a 'Noob' or 'Uniformed Dork' all they please. I personally think incorporating the Vulpera is a smart decision. Sure, Horde is our 'Built Ford Tough' faction, and Alliance our 'Everythin' is Awesome' one. Except it's an online experience. WoW is an MMORPG, and is constantly evolving. Communities change, and even with senior players threatening to leave, you likely have a dozen new people interested in replacing them.
So, I never take the whole 'I'll leave if Vulpera are made' serious. I mean, after a year of WoW alone, I know it's an exhausting experience to maximum every reputation and character to their full potential. Someone who's been playing since 2006? Oh hey, they want to leave over a slight hiccup? I honestly disbelieve that's the case. Since after a year, I'd never quit over something trivial. Entire decade? I'd hope my time is actually worth 'sucking it up' instead of abandoning ship.
Personally, I'd love to make a Vulpera. I hope the whole 'race-change' option is available, despite the major loss replacing my Pandaren. I could be a humongous dink, and explain 'why' I believe Vulpera will be an actual player-race. Except I know that would be refunded with incredible rage and distaste. So, despite the risk, I will make a couple notable examinations on my behalf here.
1: Vulpera have an excessive amount of effort put towards their animations, textures, customization, and sounds. Beyond any previous NPC, and even some current races. Such things cost money. Now, would Blizzard invest a fortune in NPC's without intention of using them for more?
2: People have successfully 'Data-Mined' information about them. Including skills, animations NPC's would never use, and even Horde insignias which would be irrelevant for regular characters. It's obvious even as NPC's, based on these results, Vulpera would prefer Horde interaction.
3: Horde has been on the 'sharp' end, far as story-content is concerned. I noticed we have lost multiple faction leaders. Alliance, from what I understand, lost their 'main' leader in the Legion expansion. Except the Horde has lost their Troll one, original Tauren one ( Could be mistaken ), Orc one ( Garrosh ), and even Thrall abandoned ship for whatever reasons. So, it would be nice having a new, adorable creature, to make amends for everyone else being absolutely dead.
4: I know people argue re-using the Goblin skeletons, except let's be sensible here. Highmountain Tauren are exactly the same, but with antlers added. Lightforged Draenai are similar, but with 'holier' features added. Similar skeletons being used is common practice in game-design. Saves money, helps with a default model, and also sets an adequate set of limitations. Do the new 'Trolls' have their own skeleton? Unlikely. Newly made Human's? Probably not. Since they are all pre-existing and modified. Again, common sense. I could be wrong.
5: It's really hard to ignore how the content was 'Data-Mined' prior. Blizzard, or any company for that matter, would not logically place as much effort in an NPC race without intention of making them player-based. Except one could argue, Nightborne had some issues when being prepared. Such as the 'dungeon' where you're disguised as one, many were not animated properly. Perhaps they intend on avoiding that mistake? Perhaps they want to make the best NPC's of one faction, any game has ever seen, with an incredible budget? Either way, I only hope the Vulpera will be made available.
I have this creeping concern that despite all the obvious information, what will happen is much like 'Half Life 3' on Steam. Too many people will 'cheat' the information, and forfeit the content from being created.
So, I never take the whole 'I'll leave if Vulpera are made' serious. I mean, after a year of WoW alone, I know it's an exhausting experience to maximum every reputation and character to their full potential. Someone who's been playing since 2006? Oh hey, they want to leave over a slight hiccup? I honestly disbelieve that's the case. Since after a year, I'd never quit over something trivial. Entire decade? I'd hope my time is actually worth 'sucking it up' instead of abandoning ship.
Personally, I'd love to make a Vulpera. I hope the whole 'race-change' option is available, despite the major loss replacing my Pandaren. I could be a humongous dink, and explain 'why' I believe Vulpera will be an actual player-race. Except I know that would be refunded with incredible rage and distaste. So, despite the risk, I will make a couple notable examinations on my behalf here.
1: Vulpera have an excessive amount of effort put towards their animations, textures, customization, and sounds. Beyond any previous NPC, and even some current races. Such things cost money. Now, would Blizzard invest a fortune in NPC's without intention of using them for more?
2: People have successfully 'Data-Mined' information about them. Including skills, animations NPC's would never use, and even Horde insignias which would be irrelevant for regular characters. It's obvious even as NPC's, based on these results, Vulpera would prefer Horde interaction.
3: Horde has been on the 'sharp' end, far as story-content is concerned. I noticed we have lost multiple faction leaders. Alliance, from what I understand, lost their 'main' leader in the Legion expansion. Except the Horde has lost their Troll one, original Tauren one ( Could be mistaken ), Orc one ( Garrosh ), and even Thrall abandoned ship for whatever reasons. So, it would be nice having a new, adorable creature, to make amends for everyone else being absolutely dead.
4: I know people argue re-using the Goblin skeletons, except let's be sensible here. Highmountain Tauren are exactly the same, but with antlers added. Lightforged Draenai are similar, but with 'holier' features added. Similar skeletons being used is common practice in game-design. Saves money, helps with a default model, and also sets an adequate set of limitations. Do the new 'Trolls' have their own skeleton? Unlikely. Newly made Human's? Probably not. Since they are all pre-existing and modified. Again, common sense. I could be wrong.
5: It's really hard to ignore how the content was 'Data-Mined' prior. Blizzard, or any company for that matter, would not logically place as much effort in an NPC race without intention of making them player-based. Except one could argue, Nightborne had some issues when being prepared. Such as the 'dungeon' where you're disguised as one, many were not animated properly. Perhaps they intend on avoiding that mistake? Perhaps they want to make the best NPC's of one faction, any game has ever seen, with an incredible budget? Either way, I only hope the Vulpera will be made available.
I have this creeping concern that despite all the obvious information, what will happen is much like 'Half Life 3' on Steam. Too many people will 'cheat' the information, and forfeit the content from being created.
Love your name,mog and pandaren!06/28/2018 10:30 PMPosted by KwinlenI have never posted on the forums before, and I have been playing WoW for less then a year. So, people can criticize me for being a 'Noob' or 'Uniformed Dork' all they please. I personally think incorporating the Vulpera is a smart decision. Sure, Horde is our 'Built Ford Tough' faction, and Alliance our 'Everythin' is Awesome' one. Except it's an online experience. WoW is an MMORPG, and is constantly evolving. Communities change, and even with senior players threatening to leave, you likely have a dozen new people interested in replacing them.
So, I never take the whole 'I'll leave if Vulpera are made' serious. I mean, after a year of WoW alone, I know it's an exhausting experience to maximum every reputation and character to their full potential. Someone who's been playing since 2006? Oh hey, they want to leave over a slight hiccup? I honestly disbelieve that's the case. Since after a year, I'd never quit over something trivial. Entire decade? I'd hope my time is actually worth 'sucking it up' instead of abandoning ship.
Personally, I'd love to make a Vulpera. I hope the whole 'race-change' option is available, despite the major loss replacing my Pandaren. I could be a humongous dink, and explain 'why' I believe Vulpera will be an actual player-race. Except I know that would be refunded with incredible rage and distaste. So, despite the risk, I will make a couple notable examinations on my behalf here.
1: Vulpera have an excessive amount of effort put towards their animations, textures, customization, and sounds. Beyond any previous NPC, and even some current races. Such things cost money. Now, would Blizzard invest a fortune in NPC's without intention of using them for more?
2: People have successfully 'Data-Mined' information about them. Including skills, animations NPC's would never use, and even Horde insignias which would be irrelevant for regular characters. It's obvious even as NPC's, based on these results, Vulpera would prefer Horde interaction.
3: Horde has been on the 'sharp' end, far as story-content is concerned. I noticed we have lost multiple faction leaders. Alliance, from what I understand, lost their 'main' leader in the Legion expansion. Except the Horde has lost their Troll one, original Tauren one ( Could be mistaken ), Orc one ( Garrosh ), and even Thrall abandoned ship for whatever reasons. So, it would be nice having a new, adorable creature, to make amends for everyone else being absolutely dead.
4: I know people argue re-using the Goblin skeletons, except let's be sensible here. Highmountain Tauren are exactly the same, but with antlers added. Lightforged Draenai are similar, but with 'holier' features added. Similar skeletons being used is common practice in game-design. Saves money, helps with a default model, and also sets an adequate set of limitations. Do the new 'Trolls' have their own skeleton? Unlikely. Newly made Human's? Probably not. Since they are all pre-existing and modified. Again, common sense. I could be wrong.
5: It's really hard to ignore how the content was 'Data-Mined' prior. Blizzard, or any company for that matter, would not logically place as much effort in an NPC race without intention of making them player-based. Except one could argue, Nightborne had some issues when being prepared. Such as the 'dungeon' where you're disguised as one, many were not animated properly. Perhaps they intend on avoiding that mistake? Perhaps they want to make the best NPC's of one faction, any game has ever seen, with an incredible budget? Either way, I only hope the Vulpera will be made available.
I have this creeping concern that despite all the obvious information, what will happen is much like 'Half Life 3' on Steam. Too many people will 'cheat' the information, and forfeit the content from being created.
I've looked over the evidence and seen choice comments by devs, Vulpera will be made playable, the evidence would convince any court. I don't need blizzard confirmation to know this at this point, its overwhelming.
If you ever join the vulpera discord feel free to give me a holler! would love to compare mogs sometime and discuss ideas!
06/25/2018 02:40 PMPosted by Byucknah06/25/2018 02:11 PMPosted by ĂeroVulpera Pallys? Yes please!
I am crossing my fingers so hard for this also!
Indeed.
The datamined class list for Vulpera has paladin on it, and they also have a Summon Charger placeholder spell. Man, I really hope this all sticks. I'd roll a foxy paladin in a heartbeat.
Although I'm sad for folks who wanted to play a Zandalari paladin, which would have made lore sense but it got ripped away from them...conversely, it gives me hope that the Vulpera will fill the void and become the Horde's third paladin race.