Here to show my support for playable Vulpera c:
It makes perfect sense to me that the Alliance invades the vulpera. There's no way we can risk letting the Horde get their hands on alpacas of mass destruction. Dolly and Dot alone could turn the tide of the entire war.
10/18/2018 02:21 PMPosted by KushnerIf Horde get Vulpera, Alliance would have to get Sethrak. Robot Gnomes aren't going to cut it.
Amén!!!
10/18/2018 03:12 PMPosted by Grayphus10/18/2018 02:21 PMPosted by KushnerIf Horde get Vulpera, Alliance would have to get Sethrak. Robot Gnomes aren't going to cut it.
Amén!!!
I'm feeling it. With the reception BfA is getting, blizzard will have to start making the fun decisions. Hony, I have a feeling vulpera were supposed to be a NPC race, but between the love some Dev put into them and our love too, it had to be done.
Keep fighting for sethrak. Somewhere deep in the cold heart of blizzard is a team of people who want to give their players the best experience.
I know it's not the same, but I know in my D&D game, when players start running with wild ideas about a throwaway NPC, it's like they're giving it life. It becomes part of the world if only because it's so fleshed out. Do the same for sethrak. Tell crazy stories, make plans, do deep lore dives to come up with theories, and do the costume parties. Devs will see and pick up on it.
While true, I think Vorrik's desire for neutrality will be what ends up pushing them towards the Alliance. Just wait until Sylvanas or some other Horde higher up want help from the Devoted to help clear out the Alliance from Vol'dun and he refuses to get involved. Or Nisha starts indiscriminately attacking Sethrak or something. It's bound to happen. Blizzard isn't oblivious enough to think Vulpera and Junk Gnomes are a good deal in the AR department.
I'm actually pretty confident we will have Nisha to thank for the inevitable bad blood between Vulpera and the Faithful. While Vulpera history is a bit of an unknown, one critical point is casually dropped stating the Sethrak have been "oppressing" the Vulpera for generations. The rift between the faithful and faithless Sethrak is a fairly recent event. This means that at some point in the not too distant past, the faithful sethrak were on board with dominating the Vulpera.
I really doubt Nisha forgot this.
Also: Two weeks until BlizzCon!
10/18/2018 11:17 PMPosted by EeveeWhile true, I think Vorrik's desire for neutrality will be what ends up pushing them towards the Alliance. Just wait until Sylvanas or some other Horde higher up want help from the Devoted to help clear out the Alliance from Vol'dun and he refuses to get involved. Or Nisha starts indiscriminately attacking Sethrak or something. It's bound to happen. Blizzard isn't oblivious enough to think Vulpera and Junk Gnomes are a good deal in the AR department.
I'm actually pretty confident we will have Nisha to thank for the inevitable bad blood between Vulpera and the Faithful. While Vulpera history is a bit of an unknown, one critical point is casually dropped stating the Sethrak have been "oppressing" the Vulpera for generations. The rift between the faithful and faithless Sethrak is a fairly recent event. This means that at some point in the not too distant past, the faithful sethrak were on board with dominating the Vulpera.
I really doubt Nisha forgot this.
Also: Two weeks until BlizzCon!
I could see Nisha convincing the horde that Vorrik and his Devoted have joined the Alliance, forcing him to do just that as a matter of survival.
10/19/2018 10:58 AMPosted by SaiureI could see Nisha convincing the horde that Vorrik and his Devoted have joined the Alliance, forcing him to do just that as a matter of survival.
We can literally just walk in and ask him tho.
10/19/2018 11:18 AMPosted by Myrothan10/19/2018 10:58 AMPosted by SaiureI could see Nisha convincing the horde that Vorrik and his Devoted have joined the Alliance, forcing him to do just that as a matter of survival.
We can literally just walk in and ask him tho.
The way I see it playing out is that the Vulpera are eager to join the horde. The horde, while ready to accept the Vulpera are far more interested in getting the more powerful Faithful and remnants of the reconciled Faithless to join. Nisha, sensing that her people are about to once again become cannon fodder to the sethrak, stages a false flag operation, attacking or sabotaging the faithful under the guise of a sanctioned horde operation. The Noodles, convinced by the attack the horde are untrustworthy, sign up with the alliance instead.
10/19/2018 11:18 AMPosted by Myrothan10/19/2018 10:58 AMPosted by SaiureI could see Nisha convincing the horde that Vorrik and his Devoted have joined the Alliance, forcing him to do just that as a matter of survival.
We can literally just walk in and ask him tho.
Might need a way to force a kind of misunderstanding, Evee's false flag has some merit but I wonder if it's not likely since we can still communicate with the Sethrak. Could be that the Vulpera willingly want to fight the Sethrak and that pushes them to the Alliance, who are willing to back the Devoted to help expand their control further into the zone against the Faithless. Vulpera probably just see it as snek expansion and especially after the Alliance purges, just don't want to deal with it and the Horde obviously opposes both the Sethrak and the Alliance.
Don't think there really needs to be a big complicated spark that ignites that powder keg, though the vulpera purge definitely lights a fire in that zone.
Not sure what Blizzard will cook up, but something is going to drive a wedge into the heart of the tenuous relationship between Vulpera/Horde/Devoted. I think the "Purge Squads" are just the first step in that direction, with more to come. As others have mentioned, seems to be that the relationship that was initiated by the Horde champion between the Devoted and the Vulpera is quite fresh, just days or perhaps weeks old, and that there is significant lingering animosity. Animosity that has been built up over quite literally generations, that can't be quickly papered over.
Apparently, Vulpera are coded to have player capes work on them, accounting for the big fluffy tail and all without clipping. I thought that was interesting.
10/20/2018 12:09 PMPosted by KenshimooApparently, Vulpera are coded to have player capes work on them, accounting for the big fluffy tail and all without clipping. I thought that was interesting.
They did the same for the snake peeps.
And why do people keep saying there is no female model for the Sneks, have you not done the story horde side?
I've only done bits and pieces and there most certainly is a female model.
I've been thinking.. what do the Vulpera actually bring to the Horde?
Like this is a serious question. If this was Thrall's or Vol'jin's Horde, I can see why Vulpera would be let into the horde. That horde was a band of misfits trying to survive together from the attacking Alliance.
But that isn't what the current Horde is. Okay well it is still what the current Horde is but it isn't want the Current War-chief wants. Each of the Allied races Sylvanas has brought in has been a way to help bolster her War campaing.
-The Magic of the Nightborne. Hell Oculeth is a great asset to have.
-The Strength of the Highmountain Tauren. Well, this one is the weaker one since I can't remember what Baine said at 110 when you could get Allied races but Tauren are equal to the strength of 10 human men in lore so having more Tauren is always good.
-The Mag'har have the Iron horde tech and knowledge. Plus I feel they were mainly just obtained to bolster the ranks.
-Finally the Zandalari. We all know why we are trying to get them. Portal Magic is good for single or small groups but become unstable when transporting large groups and supplies unless an anchor point / portal frame is built. Which I guess the horde can do now since they have Oculeth but overall having an actual Navy would be more Valuable for transportation of supplies and goods.
I've just been thinking on what would the Vulpera bring for Sylvanas' Horde. And as a group of Free'd slaves who mainly were traders just Navigating the desert... I can't think of anything and thus I doubt Sylvanas would want them in her horde.
Which actually brings me to the other race in Vol'dum, The Sethrak. These guys can build Spires that generate and attract lightning. That can bring some serious value to goblin tech.
Now.... I can see Alliance getting Sethrak. Since well the Sethrak helped fortify an Alliance camp in Voldum. Now then I might be able to see Sylvanas wanting the Vulpera. To help protect a flank in Voldum.
Sorry, post got long winded.
TL:DR = I can see Vulpera being welcomed into the old new horde but not the new new horde since they bring nothing to help really with the War effort.
Like this is a serious question. If this was Thrall's or Vol'jin's Horde, I can see why Vulpera would be let into the horde. That horde was a band of misfits trying to survive together from the attacking Alliance.
But that isn't what the current Horde is. Okay well it is still what the current Horde is but it isn't want the Current War-chief wants. Each of the Allied races Sylvanas has brought in has been a way to help bolster her War campaing.
-The Magic of the Nightborne. Hell Oculeth is a great asset to have.
-The Strength of the Highmountain Tauren. Well, this one is the weaker one since I can't remember what Baine said at 110 when you could get Allied races but Tauren are equal to the strength of 10 human men in lore so having more Tauren is always good.
-The Mag'har have the Iron horde tech and knowledge. Plus I feel they were mainly just obtained to bolster the ranks.
-Finally the Zandalari. We all know why we are trying to get them. Portal Magic is good for single or small groups but become unstable when transporting large groups and supplies unless an anchor point / portal frame is built. Which I guess the horde can do now since they have Oculeth but overall having an actual Navy would be more Valuable for transportation of supplies and goods.
I've just been thinking on what would the Vulpera bring for Sylvanas' Horde. And as a group of Free'd slaves who mainly were traders just Navigating the desert... I can't think of anything and thus I doubt Sylvanas would want them in her horde.
Which actually brings me to the other race in Vol'dum, The Sethrak. These guys can build Spires that generate and attract lightning. That can bring some serious value to goblin tech.
Now.... I can see Alliance getting Sethrak. Since well the Sethrak helped fortify an Alliance camp in Voldum. Now then I might be able to see Sylvanas wanting the Vulpera. To help protect a flank in Voldum.
Sorry, post got long winded.
TL:DR = I can see Vulpera being welcomed into the old new horde but not the new new horde since they bring nothing to help really with the War effort.
10/20/2018 12:58 PMPosted by PhrenkI've been thinking.. what do the Vulpera actually bring to the Horde?
Like this is a serious question. If this was Thrall's or Vol'jin's Horde, I can see why Vulpera would be let into the horde. That horde was a band of misfits trying to survive together from the attacking Alliance.
But that isn't what the current Horde is. Okay well it is still what the current Horde is but it isn't want the Current War-chief wants. Each of the Allied races Sylvanas has brought in has been a way to help bolster her War campaing.
-The Magic of the Nightborne. Hell Oculeth is a great asset to have.
-The Strength of the Highmountain Tauren. Well, this one is the weaker one since I can't remember what Baine said at 110 when you could get Allied races but Tauren are equal to the strength of 10 human men in lore so having more Tauren is always good.
-The Mag'har have the Iron horde tech and knowledge. Plus I feel they were mainly just obtained to bolster the ranks.
-Finally the Zandalari. We all know why we are trying to get them. Portal Magic is good for single or small groups but become unstable when transporting large groups and supplies unless an anchor point / portal frame is built. Which I guess the horde can do now since they have Oculeth but overall having an actual Navy would be more Valuable for transportation of supplies and goods.
I've just been thinking on what would the Vulpera bring for Sylvanas' Horde. And as a group of Free'd slaves who mainly were traders just Navigating the desert... I can't think of anything and thus I doubt Sylvanas would want them in her horde.
Which actually brings me to the other race in Vol'dum, The Sethrak. These guys can build Spires that generate and attract lightning. That can bring some serious value to goblin tech.
Now.... I can see Alliance getting Sethrak. Since well the Sethrak helped fortify an Alliance camp in Voldum. Now then I might be able to see Sylvanas wanting the Vulpera. To help protect a flank in Voldum.
Sorry, post got long winded.
TL:DR = I can see Vulpera being welcomed into the old new horde but not the new new horde since they bring nothing to help really with the War effort.
I imagine since the 'purge squads' are a thing, we might get more story to uncover their uses. But I can't see Sylvanas turning down any extra help - the Vulpera know the dunes like the back of their hand, are swift and crafty and would be good spies.
Vulpera confirmation please. T^T
OMG this thread is still ALIVE
10/20/2018 06:58 PMPosted by WariyaOMG this thread is still ALIVE
Considering that Vulpera are pretty much happening, yes.
Disagree. At the end of the day Vulpera are more troops for the Horde. Hell we have quest where we recruit (enslave) Kobolds into the Horde. I don't believe any sort of specialty is necessary.10/20/2018 12:58 PMPosted by PhrenkI can see Vulpera being welcomed into the old new horde but not the new new horde since they bring nothing to help really with the War effort
They're just another race to
10/20/2018 12:58 PMPosted by Phrenkbolster the ranks.
The real reason why Vulpera are joining the Horde is to rebalance the faction aesthetics:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-battle-for-azeroth-races
The process is "decide Horde need Vulpera, write lore to justify it" rather than the other way around.
And then if we noticed a preponderance of really big, tough-looking races on one side or really charming, cool, cute-looking races on the other, then we try to do a little bit of a rebalance. Those profiles and those aesthetics are really important. We didnât want everyone on the Horde to look ugly, right?
https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-battle-for-azeroth-races
The process is "decide Horde need Vulpera, write lore to justify it" rather than the other way around.
10/20/2018 07:16 PMPosted by HuuirnarrumnDisagree. At the end of the day Vulpera are more troops for the Horde. Hell we have quest where we recruit (enslave) Kobolds into the Horde. I don't believe any sort of specialty is necessary.10/20/2018 12:58 PMPosted by PhrenkI can see Vulpera being welcomed into the old new horde but not the new new horde since they bring nothing to help really with the War effort
They're just another race to10/20/2018 12:58 PMPosted by Phrenkbolster the ranks.
I don't see them making shock troops (aka people just sent out to die) into a playable race. Plus other than the kobo
10/20/2018 07:32 PMPosted by KelnethiThe real reason why Vulpera are joining the Horde is to rebalance the faction aesthetics:And then if we noticed a preponderance of really big, tough-looking races on one side or really charming, cool, cute-looking races on the other, then we try to do a little bit of a rebalance. Those profiles and those aesthetics are really important. We didnât want everyone on the Horde to look ugly, right?
https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-battle-for-azeroth-races
The process is "decide Horde need Vulpera, write lore to justify it" rather than the other way around.
Isn't that what the Nightborne there for? to help the cute/charming race for the horde. They already out number goblins.
I mean it's not like the horde needs a cute/charming race. 40% of population are the cute/charming race of blood elves.