I can’t be the only one who has a problem with this system. It is unbelievable to me that I can go into a twilight dungeon to gear an alt, be kicked from the group for absolutely no reason, and then be additionally punished with a 30 minute deserter debuff.
I have cleared 8/8 heroic and I’m over 90 parse average. I don’t think that’s necessarily impressive, it is simply to show that I’m a competent player. I’ve cleared these dungeons hundreds of times by now, I know all of the mechanics, and I know how to play my class. Still, I run into issues where a tank overpulls, a healer can’t keep up, a DPS ignores mechanics, etc. Anything as simple as suggesting a way to deal with the issue that just wiped us is liable to get you removed from the group. Sometimes, not even a word is said in chat but the rest of the party is a guild and decides to kick you for fun.
Now, this is annoying for sure, but with a vote kick system I imagine it can’t be helped. But please. Blizzard. For the love of Thrall. Don’t give me a deserter debuff where I have to sit AFK for 30 minutes before I can play again. The grind to gear an alt in these dungeons takes long enough. I don’t see the purpose of punishing people for playing the game. Debuffs and bans should be reserved for people who actively leave groups or are in breach of ToS. People are bad enough, don’t make the game toxic too.
as a healer, i get grouped with tanks who vote to kick me for the most immature reasons, like not keeping them at 100% full health all the time or healing other people as well. It happens more often then people think, some people are just salty like that. And unfortunately the rest of the party usually goes along with it cause they assume the tank knows best. im glad to see other people noticed how toxic some people are.
without the debuff timer people just hold the group hostage when they get a dungeon they don’t like until they get kicked and can instantly queue again, that is specifically why the deserter debuff was put in place.
and recently at the launch of TWW the players showed they were degenerates again because they’d just leave after the first boss if it wasn’t a dungeon they wanted or they didn’t get the loot they were after so now the deserter debuff will apply up until the last boss is dead or if multiple people are already gone
Yeah just got into the game, join some blackrock cavern run that fell apart and joined with 3 others. Wiped once and got kicked and hit with a 30 min wait time
Well, once you realize that half the people playing this game still are toxic AF, it will make sense.
I was in a heroic, the 3rd DPS was way low, but who cares, it’s Halls. Doesn’t matter. They vote to kick him, I vote no because it doesn’t matter, we’ll clear regardless. It fails.
They then vote kick me, highest DPS, and I get kicked for protecting the low DPS, who votes to kick me lol.
My thought process: a player has to be a jag or way afk to deserve a kick.
My action: I don’t vote to kick the first time, ever. A player has to prove it’s deserved through significantly poor play or essentially total inaction for me to actually hit the kick button.
You kids need to calm the f down; again, it’s a freaking game.
Ive find most heroic groups to be more laid back. The one time i got kicked from a heroic was i forgot i had the dungeon finder set to heals, not damage (I’m not comfortable enough to heal a heroic yet, and it was still set for when i was healing regular dungeons earlier in the day). I got kicked, the killer was being treated as if i had done it intentionally.
The kick culture is worst in regulars, which is where people should be allowed to LEARN not be kicked for not knowing the fights by a group which didn’t communicate.
ALSO… remember kids play this game. They’re not the most forgiving or understanding folks, if you remember from school. They probably have itchier trigger fingers for the kick, and are assuming you are one of them.
i cant finish a single dungeon… Always group falls apart or im somehow removed with no explanation. I really dislike the state of the game right now. I have very little time to play and my session basically gets ruined anytime I get a 30minute debuff not allowing me to queue.
This used to be a fun game, now its just too taxing to waste any time on it. I can’t move the goal post at all, every time I try to play I run into some toxic people. No sense of community anymore.
