Hi can I get a pointer to where to look these up.
Is void the opposite of light and is fel opposite of Arcane.
If so what is shadow.
Reason is I don’t understand why they can have LFD as shadow priests or Forsaken holy/dis priest. Apart from VElf priests. Also why can there be green Orc mages if all green orcs are poluted with fel.
Please be kind and help
Nothing makes sense in WoW anymore.
I was under the impression shadow and void were interchangeable terms for the same thing.
Void and light aren’t necessarily opposites, more like two sides of the same coin. I guess depending on your interpretation that could be considered an opposite.
Fel is not the opposite of arcane. Arcane is natural, whereas fel was created by the clashing of light and void (creating the twisting nether).
Originally there was a distinction between “void” and “shadow”, but now it’s the same thing. I still think that there is a difference: if someone is said to be using “the void” then it’s implied you’re doing it in a kind of “large” scale, where the whispers of the void can affect you. If you are using “shadow” magic, I think it’s just to a lesser extent, and you’re tapping into an already established “technique” that uses it (still the void) but to a very lesser extent.
The reason that all of the race+class combos you have mentioned can exist is because it would not make sense for a player to be gimped out of playing a spec due to the race. You’ll not see any actual NPC LFDs as shadow priests, you do in fact see forsaken holy/disc priests because they are established to exist and they make canonical sense (no arguing allowed on this point).
Now, with orcs, they can’t be mages because they were never taught magic by the ogres in Draenor, who were very magically inclined (originally - they can, as of cata, be mages - the point is that in cata it’s that they were explicitly taught how to, originally they didn’t know). Just because they drank some fel blood doesn’t mean they get a magical affinity (remembering that fel is not the opposite of arcane), in the same sense that a priest was given a bow, they wouldn’t just ‘magically’ be able to be proficient with it and then go on to know animal husbandry.
You need to split your thinking into two different departments - gameplay and story. Storywise, you’ll likely never see a shadow priest LFD, but ingame you will because it would not only kill game balance, it would make zero sense to gimp a race out of a spec.
Hope this has been helpful.
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This. Shadow Priests are effectively void priests. Think of it in the same way as Holy and Light being somewhat interchangeable.
If we look at the cosmology chart from the Chronicles they kind of are.
Fel energy is literally chaos manifested and arcane is literally order manifested. They are opposites. Plus everything is born from the light and the void clashing. The entire universe was born from those two forces clashing.
While technically interchangeable, contextually there is some sense that when Shadow is used it generally describes overall darkness - which would include the naturally occurring darkness in balance with Light that exists in physical reality and the pure darkness predating it - while the word Void usually gets bandied about specifically in reference to the Void and its denizens outside the physical universe.
Lore-wise, the races of Azeroth have seemed to know about Shadow magic existing for a very long time, but knowledge of the Void as a distinct external presence and force exerting influence in the universe comes across as being a pretty new concept to most of the planet’s mortal races and characters.
I see your point, but I don’t think I agree that that makes it an opposite. Fel being the antithesis of arcane does not make it an opposite of it, IMO.
Does that mean they are distinctly different and incompatible. If so fel green orcs mage?
Depends on what one means by “incompatible.”
Fel Disorder breaks down arcane Order, and arcane Order can contain and stabilize fel Disorder. So they’re “compatible” insofar as each has an inverse behavioral response to the other rather than, say, just obliterating each other on contact.
Kind of like how if you’re trying to avoid a reaction between an acidic compound and a base, you might call them incompatible. However, if your goal is to neutralize one with the other, then they are compatible for that purpose.
Like all things in wow, one cannot exist without the other. Two sides of the same coin.
Or something like that.
Are you asking if there are any Fel orc mages? Not to my knowledge. There are green orc mages.
It’s interesting how Fel and Arcane neutralize each other while Shadow/Void and Light explode on contact with each other as well as with Fel.
Shadow/Void reacts explosively not only to Light and Fel but to Arcane as well apparently(at least it reacts explosively to Arcane Runes as shown by Dabbling in the Demonic’s questline in Legion)… And yet Arcane seems to work well with Light and only nullifies Fel rather than explode either of them.
Why is Void so volatile do you think? It reacts explosively on everything except Life and Death!
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