Void form or devouring plague?

I feel like DP should never have been removed, and VF never been implemented; however, it would maybe be cool if they gave us the choice for one or another (maybe in a 9.0 talent row) since a lot of SPs hate void form and basically everyone wants DP back? no?

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I liked the Legion version of Void Form that refreshed DoT duration (to its full duration) rather than increase its duration by X seconds.

I liked that more than the DP build of WoD.

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Anything is better than current voidform for me… They took a bad mechanic from Demonology and mashed into Shadow. I miss when strong Dots were the focus.

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Totally agree re DOTs. Devouring plague (pre orbs) was such a cool spell that was perfect for the theme of a shadow priest. Shadow word: Death too…

But hey, blizzard ruining classes for the sake of adding $hite for no reason is nothing new.

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I prefer DP and Shadow Orbs, but I do believe that Void Form is salvageable to be honest. Blizzard could do a couple things though.

1)Void Eruption should be instant. Going from instant in PvP to a cast time in PvE is so jarring I can’t even begin to describe my frustration. Especially when certain mission, etc… disable PvP talents (Only God knows why…)

2)Void Form hard cap of say 50 or so stacks and balance accordingly. Shadow Mania (Voidform’s Insanity drain is reduced by 100% while stunned, feared, or silenced) needs to be baseline.

3)If Void Eruption is instant then we can change up the Level 100 tier some. Surrender to Madness for example could be redesigned to be a passive ability that increases the insanity cap to 200 and grants 5% crit chance while in Void Form. LotV could be lowered to 50 Insanity and 10% spell damage in Void Form. Dark Ascension could use a change to say have 2 charges and only generate 30 insanity each time. Dark Ascension either causes you to enter void form if in Shadow Form or casts Void Eruption in the current Void Form, keeping the current stacks.

4)SW:D baseline (Mic drop), and redesign the level 75 tier (Not hard at all)

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I think we can all agree on the SW:D one. It was a huge mess up to talent it.
Im not so sure on the insanity system i really dislike and i think it feels a little more punishing than rewarding to manage insanity. Though it is unlikely that they will discard it in favor of a new one, so some of the improvements you suggested would be a more realistic expectation.

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They took a bad mechanic from Demonology and mashed into Shadow

They took a fun mechanic from Demonology and butchered it*

To reply to the topic, I prefer DP.

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The population for BFA is already terrible (apparently) compared to other expacs… even their ‘low peaks’. If something doesn’t happen regarding classes in 9.0 I think it’s gonna be even worse :tired_face::tired_face::sleepy::sleepy:

I feel like Spriests could be so much better with the removal of VF, bringing back DP and SW:D as baseline abilities.

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I agree. Overall I think that Legion “Void Priest” was more consistent with the current vision with the Artifact weapon than the watered down version we have now. Apart from a total rework in 9.0 I am just hoping they put on “better” band-aids.

I really miss devouring plague. I’ve honestly never liked void form. When I played Legion beta I was so disappointed with how much my favorite spec in this entire game changed. I don’t really play my priest anymore because of it. I’ll still level her and get her some gear in hopes that they revert this idea in the next expansion.

But honestly I don’t have my hopes high in ever getting devouring plague back unless they pull some talent bs and just have it as an extra dot on a CD but keep void form. -__- I can see them doing something like that. Also 100% agree with SW:D, that was hands down a terrible idea.

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I feel like they just changed Spriest for the sake of changing it. A bit like Ele sham. They had great concept and feels and then… expansions happened. At least we have classic to look forward to… no void form, SW:D as baseline, DP (for undead)…

Funny that the 2004 Spriest has better class identity and feel than the current one :confused:

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SW:D wasn’t in classic actually, it was added in TBC

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Void form (and everything that comes with it) annoys me enough that half the time I do world quests as a healing spec (I’m a healer) and the other half, I ignore it… just crappy dots pretending they do something (you know, besides tag the mob). I should really just quest as disc since they have the shadow word:pain to insta tag mob… I only do shadow for the targetable aoe without a cooldown (to use for tagging… I’m not really actively trying to kill stuff in any spec).

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Devouring plague by a longggggggg shot. Voidform and the new style of shadowpriest completely ruined the class for me. Its too clunky, its not forgiving and its just not a fun or rewarding game style.

I wish they would just realize that its a really bad mechanic that not a lot of people appreciate.

I have way more fun being a disc priest these days.

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I couldnt agree with you more

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I still think Void Form is salvageable, it just feels like the give and take every other expansion ruined whatever they were trying to do in Legion. If BFA would have been a WotLK addition on top of TBC of Legion then I think Void Form would be in a better place. Since BFA is the gutted Shadow of Cataclysm then it makes since that most people dislike it. Cataclysm and Warlords were God awful expansions for class design, I cringe to think I even played them some.

Solution: Make VF a talent (OPTIONAL) and make it have a few more abilities (upgrades) or whatever. Why force everyone to play this dumb fxxking mechanic? It could (should) be like ascendance being optional.

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Agreed. I dont play priests as often but I am currently leveling one and Voidform feels odd to me. Just doesnt feel smooth and I remember devouring plague and all that. Prefer that style and prefer the mind blast sound effect from the past.

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Honestly I didn’t mind Warlords spriest. It was the last time I actually enjoyed the spec. It wasn’t amazing but I still had fun with it at least. But I didn’t start playing the game until Cata and didn’t make a priest until MoP. I really enjoyed MoP spriest. I wish I got to try it out before then though.

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I don’t mind having insanity as a resource, I just hate void form. I think blizz should keep the insanity resource, and then give us a lvl 15 talent that let’s us pick our playstyle.
Devouring plague: Costs 50 insanity and puts a powerful DoT on the target for 10 seconds.
Void form: 60 insanity or more. Works the way it currently does
Mind Spike: Replaces mind flay and removes the CD from mind blast. Makes mind blast cost 40 insanity and deal more dmg. Casting mind spike on a target that has your DoTs on it consumes part of the DoTs, dealing the dmg instantly (similar to the way destro locks immolation skill works.)

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