Void Elf-High Elf Customization Thread

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2067

It’s pretty clear in the Heritage quest Lor’themar sugar coats heavily his opinion on Sylvanas because she’s still presented as a war hero.

Blood Elves were also one of the races they showed in game to an extent (not the majority or the kingdom of course with Lorthemar siding against Sylvanas) as former loyalists in chains around the city.

I want to say in either BTS or one of the short stories for war of thorns when Magni came to speak to Sylvanas her personal mage she had on hand was noted to be a BE serving his Warchief, so it wouldn’t be strange for BEs to feel saddened by Sylvanas as much as the Forsaken or other Horde members who expected more from her.

They are still better allies with the Forsaken because of their shared recent history then they ever were with Alliance members, in fact when push came to shove Quel’thalas was neutral rather than stay in the Alliance at one point in its history. Push came to shove in recent lore and BEs are more Horde than ever with Lor’themar sitting on the new council.

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2068

I’m just so done with them trying to use her for their argument.

So… so done.

You mean the thing everyone found about when it was too late.

So sacred it was crawling with eldritch creatures because it was grown without the blessing of the aspects.

Same as above.

Again, with the cherry picking mate. Even someone as sleep deprived as me can see it.

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2069

I get that, I don’t want BEs to join the alliance. BEs are forever change and will never be Quel’dorei again. Ren’dorei are also not Quel’dorei, but the three share some visual characteristics, like blue eyes. And it’s OK.

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2070

Honestly, given elves long lives, I’d bet they’d be able to separate diferences in a person character over time.

Likely they still see Alleria as a hero during the Second War, but much less so now.

Sylvanas was still their defender once. And she died for it.

She was a hero.

What she has become is a far cry from those days.

For good or ill.

Again, elves being so long lived I’d like to believe that they see things in a longer view and separate out eras in a persons life.

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2071

You share the non void skin tones as well and that is more than enough sharing.

You have a unique visual theme and most of BEs visual theme that is not okay to many people who take issue with the loss of visual distinction and obviously Blizzard has kept the visual distinction in place, and that’s okay.

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2072

Hey now! They fixed it in Cata!

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2073

I get that it’s your opinion that it’s more than enough. But surely you won’t pretend it’s a conclusion you came to by careful analysis of the facts.

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2074

This, so much this.

Same reason why he was friendly towards Vol’jin, while others tend to view all trolls as the same.

Instead of the blessing from the aspects they should have invested on insurance :stuck_out_tongue:

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2075

Incorrect.

The horde inside the gates of orgrimar and the horde outside it were both still horde, if you want to get technical, Sylvanas horde was the true horde as she was their warchief, the would-be siege was a flat out Alliance and a few horde rebels, versus the true Horde inside the gates.

The Silver covenant allowing their siege weaponry and their leader to lay siege on either side of orgrimars entrances is the exact opposite of “neutral”, as it is not for Dalaran to decide which side of the conflict is “correct”, for all they knew, it was horde traitors aiding the Alliance to finally end the horde.

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2076

So im cherry picking by posting from the WOW wiki? Delusions.

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2077

Exactly!

I also wish Blizzard would play into that a little more.

Ironically it seems Night Elves don’t share that trait but you do see it a lot among the Blood Elves.

Honestly I kinda thought being a tree island would be enough. shrug

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2078

Considering you’re leaving out the part where it mentions the attempt of Durzaan to turn them into Void creatures, yes, you are cherry picking.

I would sell a kidney to put money on seeing a total bro moment between Vol’jin and Lor’themar.

Don’t understimate the reach of plot powered ballistas.

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2079

The only excuse for rebellion is success.

I don’t have much to add here. I just wanted to use that line.

Ultimately from the Alliance perspective and the Horde one Sylvannas was a tyrant. Most of the Horde leadership was already against her.

So how much of the Horde was she at that point?

I’ll grant you, its far more complicated than I made it seem.

Come now, you guys used Demolishers. Far better in the long run.

2080

Imo, they should have gone full rip-off and have a bunch of zeppelins equiped with fire mages kind of like that one moment in Avatar.

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2081

Probably because she showed up to sell them Alliance membership. Lor’themar was none too pleased.

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2082

Oh man, that would have been cool.

Also might’ve made it seem more like it was Forsaken and Goblins more than just ALL THE HORDE.

Which may have made it more palatable for me… personally of course.

And the danger to the Sunwell bit… yeah.

I think Lor’themar already knew she’d do that though, and I think that still bugged him immensely.

here Alleria comes lost for 25 some odd years to just tell them to go back to the Alliance heedless to whats happened since?

I’d be a bit put off as well.

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2083

Knock knock

“Excuse me, Regent Lord, have you heard the word of our lord and savior the Alliance?”

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2084

Not part of the wiki. So no, im not. You keep making things up. Im done with you.

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2085

They acknowledged though they are void infused so I don’t know why they still have the stance they have they answered their own question lol

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2086

At that moment, the cube opened with an explosion, allowing Nether-Prince Durzaan — the corrupt ethereal who had stalked Alleria and made an attempt to claim the Sunwell — to surge into Telogrus. Durzaan immediately began a spell to capture and corrupt Umbric and his followers, binding them in an attempt to transform the elves into creatures of the void.

Uh-huh…

Not only they started on the wrong foot by quoting exactly that, but right under the “Convergence of Shadows” of that same article, it says that.

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