Void & Death; enemies?

I am trying to wrap up my head as to why is the Void morbidly afraid of Death. Is it due to supremacy for power or rather is Death an enemy to all?

Going according to what the void whispered to Allerian to kill Sylvanas as Death is the ultimate enemy.

Any theories as to what makes Death that frightening? Isn’t the Void and Death different sides of the same coin or has similar tendencies?

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It’s said the Void is out there to devour all energy to ‘‘twist creation inward to feed upon itself’’

So it’s more of a corruption business.

However, Death is described to push everything towards ‘‘a state of entropic decay and eventual oblivion’’

Not to mention with how the Undead seem to be immune or at least VERY resistant to corruption, might indicate that once you are consumed by Death (you die lel) the Void cannot really do much about you, hence why they’re afraid of Death. (that’s a theory though)

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The Void that’s possessing Alleria tried to get her to off Sylvannas when the Windrunners had their family get-together.

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Void and death are two seperate things. Void is about chaos the opposite to the light being all about order. Without life choas cannot exist. Death is ultimately the enemy of everything. Think back to the old story of the man who killed death

Death’s main goal is to bring the universe to nonexistence. The void’s main goal is to corrupt all life. Without life there is no corrupting it. Death wants absolute nothingness.

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Void is entropy. It’s darkness, hunger, fear and doom. All of which are of course a counterbalance to the Light which is sunshine, lolipops, and rainbows, everything’s that wonderful is what I feel when we’re together.

They serve as the Ying and Yang of the setting - the two building blocks of the universe. The brighter the light the darker the shadow and so on.

Death and more to the point Undeath on the otherhand exist outside that cycle of sex, birth, age and death. They’re functionally immune to entropy which is sort of the Void’s whole deal. So the Void Lords decidely aren’t fans.

Maldraxxus actually makes this conflict, potentially, very interesting. As until now I thought Undeath was a very successful invention of the Legion. But no - it is self evidently an otherworldly force.

We’ll have to see where the Lore goes. I’m presuming the Shadowlands are an entirely different realm of existence separate but connected to the material realm the story so far has taken place in. If that’s the case it makes the Void’s fear of undeath, and Slyvanas in particular, a touch more understandable. Rather than a successful experiment it’s a power completely outside their universe leaking into it.

What I find more curious is the Light’s relationship to Undeath. I’d have said they weren’t fans either but between Paladins in The Risen, Alonsus Faol and now Calia Menethil- I’m not so sure.

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The only Void not opposed to Death is Void aligned with the Darkened/Dying Naaru of Draenor who apparently are different from the Void Naaru L’ura(according to Locus Walker it is very rare for a Naaru to turn to the Void the way L’ura did).

The only other Death-using Void wielders are the Naga under the traitor Azshara, Yogg-Saron the Old God of Death(who only uses Death Energy and not Undead) and the servants of G’huun whose chief servant Zul has been working with Azshara and Nathanos.

As for the Light: “The Light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all.” according to N’Zoth.

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Since you threw that N’zoth quote out there about the light, the light did raise calia menethil into undeath so that’s what the bargain was I assume. I also wonder if N’zoth was talking about the hole in the sky when he said “only I can save you… from what is… to come.”

It’s interesting how Darkened Naaru are the chief sources of Death Magic in Void Users.

The Twilight’s Hammer’s obsession with Death and the end of all things is unsurprising since they got it from a dying Naaru. Yogg-Saron becoming a Death user is unsurprising since the Twilight’s Hammer weakened his chains.

N’Zoth not letting the Death-aligned Twilight’s Hammer anywhere near him(despite them freeing C’Thun) and instead ordering them to preform the Hour of Twilight and later revive Soggoth the Slitherer is unsurprising since he saw the corruption of Yogg-Saron by their Death Magic.

Interestingly enough the Arbiter resembles Calia and the Lightforged Draenei… She is a Death Entity. The one in charge of Death.

If Death’s own master is Lightforged it’s no wonder the Naaru can tap into Death even if they fall into a Death-tainted Void State due to their bargain with Death(with pure Void Naaru being deliberately corrupted like L’ura).

The Void originally came from Light dimming according to Chronicle and if it dims due to Death abuse despite being living Light Elementals then Death-tainted Void(the most vile combination) is the end result.

I never understood this concept either after encountering the Shadowmoon clan in Draenor.

That’s Fel.

If I had to pick one word for each force:

Light is destiny
Void is possibility
Life is creation
Death is destruction
Arcane is order
Fel is chaos

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Lights not destiny it’s as much possibility as void they just pick one and void embraces all hence why illidan shut down xe’re’s supposed destiny

The Void is, for all intents and purposes, a universe-spanning cancer. It’s all consuming, all expanding, unstoppable life.

Death is anathema to it.

I suspect the Light and Void are getting their visions of the future from Alleria and Turalyon’s future selves.

The Void visions I assume are Alleria’s experiences including the ones she receives of Re-Originated Azeroth(which due to the still not deleted Blueprint of N’Zoth is a Void-corrupted Planet) shoved into Horrific Visions Nozdormu(making him into Murozond who somewhat resembles Alleria) who probably wants explanation of this twisted Time Period(as Real Nozdormu isn’t telling him).

Turalyon and Lothraxion of course personally visits the Naaru of the Past and tells MU Xe’ra that Alleria doesn’t die in the future they came from thus ensuring that MU Xe’ra doesn’t kill Alleria for Void Magic despite the AU Xe’ra giving such orders to Yrel.

Arator’s vision from the Light is probably of Turalyon witnessing Horrific Visions Turalyon dying in his arms(Turalyon would cry over a person being born dying).

The Light and Void think they got the future from those that lived it(with Turalyon assuring the Light that there is one true Timeline while Murozond who is insane and confused by what Alleria showed him claims that there are multiple truths) and don’t realize that they have only been given enough information that ensures Time follows as it’s meant to and nothing else.

As for what Alleria will possibly experience on Re-Originated Azeroth:

  1. Horrific Visions Alleria bowing to N’Zoth(who is dead)

  2. Horrific Visions Alleria absorbing N’Zoth’s power(the power won’t go away now that it’s reduced to it’s base Elements) and creating a more vile army than the Old Gods

  3. Turalyon giving orders for Horrific Visions Alleria’s death

  4. Aimless frightened Void creatures as innocent as my Aqir pet(still haven’t finished the Questline to make it a Mount) being fried by Light and petrified in Light Crystal by either the Naaru going all Scarlet Crusade, T’paartos being reckless with the Vindicaar’s weaponry or both

Where is Real Nozdormu during all of this?

Considering he would probably notice Re-Origination(it’s not subtle as seen with Ny’alotha’s destruction) he would Time Travel to the future, investigate the Forge of Origination to find what sort of Blueprint would create such an insane Azeroth, discover N’Zoth’s new Blueprint and then disguise himself till his Horrific Visions counterpart(who knows nothing about the Re-Origination) goes back in time as Murozond before revealing himself.

After revealing himself it would only be logical to send Turalyon and Lothraxion(who should have learned some Glaive Skills by then if the vision Xe’ra interpreted as Illidan’s future is correct) back in Time to provide the Naaru with specific visions of the future with some of Nozdormu’s own knowledge while withholding Xe’ra’s fate.

That remains a mystery. I hear tell that some consider this a reference to the deal Azshara and Sylvanas struck, and not so much the cosmic forces themselves.

Azshara being the light of lights and Sylvanas being… the enemy of all and the self proclaimed mistress of death.