Yup… Versatility remains the best PvP stat. Nothing has changed on that .
It’s really not nice how Blizz does these nerfs after ppl spend their time farming currency to buy the corruption.
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I will say one thing for you there isnt a subject you wont QQ about
This isn’t QQ but the opposite of QQ. If QQ means quit, then this is a subject. Edit: Abigall, why quit now? At least when 8.3 started you had a reason to QQ but this is excellent news. But the opposite is also true: if you believe that having 30-80 % Vers is what required you to be competitive, then by all means QQ. Take a page out of my book and retire like I did in February.
@Tinkerrific, Dosao Well, duh: you can see it in the Blue Tracker pic that it said so under the category of Corruption Effects. But this is talking about Vers overall in 8.3, which is not a universal Vers stat change set in stone. This only applies to the OUTRAGEOUS Vers buffs we’re getting as of CURRENT. But when we get into SL, things will normalize and what you get in Vers then is what you keep.
What’s been buzzing for at least as long as I’ve been out is that you’re looking at 70-80% Vers people dominating WPvP. YES, TAX THAT EXCREMENT!
But no, any corruption EFFECT is going to be taxed 33%, and like I said in my OP, you’re not getting kickbacks in some other stat. Stacking Vers is pretty punishing enough to get the number you’d ideally want. So what’s the net change? Everyone being more “killy”(ork lingo) vs. hybrid classes and tank specs.
Having established this, I guess I’ll just do what I always do: if it’s an upgrade and gasp(here we go) CLOSER TO BiS then I’LL TAKE IT! As I said a week ago, I got close to 7% Vers on my other toon without even trying, so it’s not like I have much of a choice.
Edit: We’re basically back to 8.0-8.2.5 when Vers had to be grown organically. That was hard to do depending on spec as I said in Part 1. And because it’s not a very heavy stat for value you’re not going to be looking at high vers at any rate anymore, organic or no. Now I’m not sure if that’s still the way to go for PvP, but I’m going to stick to my tried-and-true refrain that it depends on spec. Obviously if you play a HYBRID you’re going to get more bang for your buck.
Realistically, I might see myself with ~5% base Vers, which is practically peanuts compared to what would be patch history. But I’d be more mathematically correct to do the best DPS thus put more peeps on the defensive quicker.
You act like i just repeated what you said, except this is what you posted,
Laughable and pathetic. Not only were you wrong about what Blizz said, you’re wrong about what you said.
Blizz actions haven’t changed anything in a significant way. That’s obvious to anyone, except maybe you.
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Did you even look at the Blue Tracker? What in the blazes are you talking about me not knowing what I pulled from a website?
Did you?
You are the one claiming that Blizz has nerfed all versatility but its very clear that Blizz only plans to nerf 1 corruption affix. There are at least 2 others they haven’t touched that affect versatility and they aren’t touching versatility itself.
Here’s the original source:
This is what they are changing
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=315553/versatile
I never said that. How old and educated are you that you can’t stick to context? Did I not say that there’s a new Vers TAX? What version are we playing right now in WoW? It wasn’t until 8.3 when Vers really got ridiculous on gear.
Soooo you didn’t write this?
The rest of the “context” is you just whining about gear and proclaiming you’re great for taking a break, like who cares.
Its not a statement open to misinterpretation. You made a sweeping generalization and a comically incorrect one at that.
Actually, it pays to sit it out. That’s what I wish some of you would do. Instead of seething in self-loathing and hate, take a page out of my book. Sit it out and wait until Blizzard gets off their lazy keesters and fix what was supposed to go live at Day 1.
Sure, I wrote that. Where do you think most of the Vers gear comes from? Now, the effects that boost it to ridiculous levels will be taxed, so you’re not looking at getting far past 50% best-case scenario, and that would gimp at least two other stats.
Actually In a few weeks we will be back to the same vers due to the cloak res increasing.
What does that have to do with the tax? Yea, you can wear more powerful pieces, but it’s not going to be so dramatic an increase in organic Vers. It’s going to be interesting to see how it plays out. A lot of mathematically incorrect vers scrubs coming soon to a WPvP hometown theater near you.
You won’t be wearing more powerful pieces, you will have the same % in vers you have now.
Which means same damage reduction and when you get stunned you take zero damage.
Apparently “Op” hybrids will get their buffs back.
In PvE, yes. In PvP, yes. From the Versatile effect, no. You know the buff that allows you to gain 12% additional Vers from ALL sources?
I don’t know this means.
Yes, they are OP. Why do you think this happened, never mind so late in stage? I’ve been blasting the forums for over a YEAR how there’s no WPvP balancing at all.
And what buffs? If you’re talking about Surging Vitality as an example, that’s what everyone gets. If everyone has something, what does that mean?
At either rate, you can kiss 50+% vers goodbye. I don’t care how well you progressed this patch. It’s going to suck more for classes like you. Not nearly as much as it sucked for Hunter, so you got that going fer ya. I would be looking at other corruption investment alternatives.
I was being sarcastic about hybrids being op.
Non hybrids have over the top healing these days.
Yes the 12% vers is going to be 8% increase instead in pvp.
So where you can wear 4 no issue now, in a few weeks you will have 6 no issue and be in the same position you are now.
The people who gain from this will be haste stacking players such as locks/mages and possibly wars.
Also let’s not forget the tank players stack %health abilities.
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Well, that’s more or less what I meant. The pures are getting a leg up.
I see it more as the 8.2.5 status quo, and you’re not really wrong. I also called it right and wisely that S4 was going to be a repeat of S3. That’s the reason why I retired. I knew it was going to suck. Engaging hybrids would be more palatable, as they’ll realize they’ll no longer have their I-WIN button.
They already take more damage from players and they had gone through some balancing nerfs. I’m not surprised they’d rather do that than to learn to get gud.
If certain specs didn’t hit so hard you would see more people stacking other things.
Personally I want haste on my enh, but I need some damage reduction to not go splat.
My bad on an incorrect original interpretation. I incorrectly read the nerf as 33% of the value (12% x .33=4%) and the correct is that its effect is 33% (12% x (1-.33)=8%).
When its all said and done, versatility will still be king on the pvp battlefield for most specs.
So basically, they’re afraid to take a hit or two. They want to be on EZ Street. Boy howdy, the youth these days, forgive me for saying. And WPVP isn’t even the fastest-paced online gaming there is.
This is what Resilience used to be good at, that you didn’t have to make a sacrifice for the modern version of the stat. That’s what I was talking about since Part 1 and whenever before; some specs are lucky to get Vers as a more comprehensive improvement to their overall damage. Mine wasn’t. Like Hades I’m going to gimp haste but especially mastery for that.
Then I came out with Part 2 and I find that Vers is everywhere in 8.3 endgame. It almost makes Vers pointless when everybody has it and it’s too difficult to avoid, but I know that at the same time there’s an arms race there as well.
You owed me the apology for that. If you stop with the hatred and actually get your mind right on the subject, it practically says 33% less effective on that corruption power. That was the only thing that was stopping you. Rombell didn’t need to reinforce it.
We’ll see if it’s still king. If Versatile is all you’re going for, that’s a lot to put in for less back, when you’re going to be up against savvy people who actually invested in more effective corr stuff for damage. Offense is the best defense, I always say. But you know, people are that scared of taking an L to the point where they’d shy away from a W that is earned by trying. No guts, no glory.
I owe you nothing.
You originally stated that all versatility was being nerfed. I pointed out to you that it only applied to a single corruption affix and did so in a way that was matter-of-fact and polite
Your reply to it,
was rude and obnoxious . AND you’re not disputing my statement, which while slightly inaccurate in the math, was an ocean closer to the truth than what you began with.
If an apology is owed by anyone to anybody its owed by you to everyone else
Just own that you said it wrong.
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