6 amps means bigger impact? unless i’m cooked just wokr up
i imagine you have 4 at 40% no?
2 12% and 1 9%
yeah i have 6 12s
makes sense
You have any idea what your vers is without amps?
with nearly same gear give or take 2 sockets id had prior to amps 31% with double static vers trinket
so prob 32 ish including new sockets
Hm, this just doesn’t seem to be adding up.
6 12s?
how so?
30% give or take, with 11 sockets 66%vers amp, visions minor(=2moresockets) goes to 55%
which then is going down to 44% in arena
The conflict nerf didn’t go through that for sure, I still gain 100% of my versa when I get stun and somehow it’s not part of the EU PvP Patch Note, did Blizzard go back on their decision ?
5x amps, perfection minor, 2,174 base versa - 3,480 out of pvp combat, 3,021 inside pvp combat
2,174 x 1.4 = 3,043, so its looking like amps are about at 7.8% in pvp combat
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No I mean the drop cause a 33% nerf to a 12% would be 8.04% and if you have 6 of them it would be about a 48.24% amp in pvp, myself I have only 2 12% and 1 9% on,
The 9% is 6.03%, after nerf making my total only 22.11% amp.
Before amps I believe I am around 30%, it just feels weird that the difference between that is as small as is but I guess 6% in vers difference is pretty big so 
What is your max common potential? (Meaning what’s your average factoring like conflict and wpn procs)
before 77-81% with Lucid (100% uptime on enhance) full conflict, and a couple versatile nav procs typically
gonna get exact before and afters right now
took off heart of darkness
https://i.imgur.com/grLN03c.png outside arena
https://i.imgur.com/SXcXOK1.png in arena
honestly i dont think anyones gonna even feel these changes significantly
maybe as we get more amps but it’s still a 5% buff to rogue/mage and mlx!
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with wpn proc and conflict I am sitting about 67%, 72% if I trigger the conflict major double up, lucid that pushes it by 2%, and surging brings it to 80%.
Elemental whirl from trait will sometimes get brought it up another 1%.
Before the nerf it was 75% with wpn and conflict double procced. With surging bringing it to 80% lucid and elemental whirl would be 85%.
So the play might end up being get a surging or 2 and stack 12%'s
Seeing it in picture like that helps, so that tracks for me a bit better.
Haven’t played yet. Do you think stacking vers is still the strat for WW monk or is the nerf a noticable dps decrease difference since you have less versaility? Was wondering if I should go gushing woods now instead of 12% vers corruption.
Vers will still be the way to go. A little ineffable isn’t a bad thing either.
Im not a theorycrafter, but could it be possible theres an unintended interaction where the defensive buff from CnS during stuns is further amplified by the vers amps?
Is an intern still running things in the pvp department?
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yes but an intern now is like CFO with late season inflation so shouldnt be a problem big doze 
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getting tired of you making fun of my inflation theory.
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It doesn’t matter. There will be a further nerf incoming to the corruption, and I can smell it. My guess is, the nerf will be to the amount of corruption it adds per slot. I can see them making the 20’s go to 25.
Honestly they should have just capped versa defensive bonus at 20% while in arena and left the damage alone. That way relative damage is higher.
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