Hi! i have a noob question, for my main (arms warrior) i choose venthyr because i like everything, story, aesthetics, condemn and door of shadows, and for my alt (another arms warrior but on alliance) i don’t know what to choose, im between venthyr again, or night fae, because i like night fae aswell, aesthetic, soul shape, story, etc, but im not a fan of their warrior abilitie, is it good, or should i stay as venthyr?
Also im a casual that mostly do pvp. so for end game i just stick with bgs, 2v2s, yolo rbgs, and heroic dungeons, but i want to try normal raiding in the futur.
In pvp Kyrian is the best, followed by venthyr and night fae being about on par.
In raiding, venthyr is the best, and the best in M+ is Kyrian, then Night fae.
So realistically, either of your choices is fine since you’re not pushing the top end in a certain content, though you might notice youre more a jack of all trades.
Oh, thank you so much! that really help me deciding, i think ill go night fae, i dont like kirian because i dont find them intersting and bastion hurt my eyes hahaha
Kyrian is only better than Night Fae due to the heal and its minimal as you heal in your spirit form for about the same amount. I choose NF>Kyrian as it provides a better looking armor set, the covenant has no “servants” and the fae aer funny af…
other than maldraxxus covenant everyone of them are close sooo close
This is a little misleading for sure.
Kyrian 100% is the best of the 3 for PVP.
Venthyr for raiding, though Night Fae is close behind them and Kyrian a little bit further in 3rd for raw Single Target.
Night Fae for Mythic+. Kyrian slightly lower on the dps side of AoE, but the tether is a nice benefit. Meanwhile, Night Fae has a different kind of control, an AoE knockdown that continues to interrupt casters. The blink and healing from soul shape is also very nice. You can go with a cheat death as well, but that’s not really all that great.
I can’t stress this part enough though, all three covenants are really good. It’s only Necrolord that’s really behind, both in impact and output.
I was Kyrian for pvp because that’s what everyone says is hands down the best but I swapped venthyr after looking at the pvp charge talent and how superior the single target damage output is with the condemn crit conduit and I’m not turning back.
If I need to swap targets it’s so easy to tab to somebody and charge them with 9k crit condemn lol. I have more mobility than I can even use. I feel like everything I touch just dies and they can’t even get away.
Especially in 2s, I would totally recommend venthyr as well. Kyrian is overrated in damage output. If you go kyrian, go for the vial/defensive bonuses.
The thing that makes Kyrian so good in PvP is the spear… locking down someone in place and forcing them to eat your damage for 4 seconds is quite powerful.
Toe to toe I’m absolutely smoking every kyrian warrior I find myself against. You wanna spear me? Fine, I’ll just stand here and condemn you to death either way lol.
I’m only 192 ilvl I can’t wait to catch her up a little bit it’s going to be even more obnoxious.
I mean yeah… I don’t think anyone is saying kyrian spear is amazing against other warriors lol. But against classes that will try and kite you, it’s great.
And hell, even against melee, can use it to lock them down behind a pillar LoSing their healer for instance. It does have uses, tho ofc less than against ranged.
Night fae is def very good for m+. I think at a higher key lvl though (if you even get invited which is a question in itself), with all the kiting, NF is a little harder to use properly, since stuff needs to remain in the NF zone. It does do more dps I think if you land it correctly.
With Kyrian it helps provide utility as well as damage. It helps with the tank kiting by tethering mobs, and vial shouldn’t be underappreciated in removing some really nasty debuffs.
I’ve started out as Venthyr beginning of the xpac loved the animation and dmg for a while. But Condemn becomes such a huge part in your rotation that you’re almost only using condemn, it’s incredibly boring. Went kyrian enjoyed it for a little bit but didn’t really like the aesthetics of kyrian and missed Venthyr. Went back to Venthyr and 3 days later I remember why I left and here I am now as Nightfar. I love ancient aftershock for NF, soul shape is also great. They’re all pretty close in terms of viability other then Necrolord which is borderline useless.
How does NF do in low competitive areas? I’ve wanted to test it out in some random epic BGs, but I usually end up logging off before the queue ever pops. I mean, I assume it does well enough, I’m just looking for some glaring flaws to avoid.