Same idk why people are sad about it, it is hard to find a tank i will invite one not matter what
Not going to say VDH doesnât need nerfed because it does. However, part of the cause is associated with the top players choosing the best option.
Iâm sure if Yoda hopped on a prot warrior the gap would be smaller.
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It does quantify the issue. A 19 compared to 15 is a very massive difference. The percentage in hp / damage would be like jumping from a level ~8 to a 15. These are worlds apart.
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But at least itâs not the god comp right yaâll. Right?
/s
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Does it quantify the number of people in the first 20 or so pages of raiderio who are all VDH compared to everyone else? No, it doesnât. Best case is if anyone cares to look at parses, which is not the whole picture. Christ.
A tank shouldnt be able to CC packs for 25 seconds by themselves. Mythic+ is about communication and working together at 5 to stop casts while dpsâing. Not the tank does it all and the dps hit target dummies.
Plka is playing prot warrior. He is just as good of player as Yoda. Nextback is player prot warrior also a slammer.
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This honestly sounds just fine to me personally. I dunno, surely Iâm not the only one.
DF Seasons 1 and 3 were the two most balanced seasons in M+ history. What are you talking about?
DF Season 2 was an abomination though. But thatâs Augâs fault.
No, I donât think most people like having a busted OP class. I think most people want a somewhat reasonable balance, given by the amount of balancing requests that get posted.
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Iâll be curious how the gap looks when he actually pushes. Ainât no way he is yet with an 11 on his record still.
Season 3 balance featured pretty much one tank all season, dps and healers were decent lol Season 1 was great. By past three seasons I mean current season, Season 3, and Season 2.
(Image was just posted for OPs point, I donât have any person take on it).
I agree. I have all the sets going back.
But I am having a lot of fun with the Bullion system. I canât wait for Manic to kick off (guessing week 5-6 because everyone going for weapon first).
Nextback has been pushing endlessly day in, and day out. Plka pushed this week on his warrior. He is streaming right now. They arenât even getting close to DHs pushing.
His title is " Learning some VDH in S4 â Pug Warrior Disaster keys 
!yt !discord !ui !bw"
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Tank balance has been significantly worse than what we got in DF S3. The SL S3 and S4 Blood DK fiasco was way, way more centralizing to the point that nothing else could compete and Iâd say the Prot Paladin meta at the tail-end of S1 (which was a great season balance-wise) was also pretty lopsided as well. You still saw Guardian and Prot Paladin doing keys one or two key levels off from some of the highest out there which is a lot better than some of the worse M+ seasons.
I wonât deny that VDH is broken in keys, but VDH also enables the healer/DPS diversity we have right now. Yeah, casters are better, but VDH is the universal âif this is in your group the rest of your comp is a lot more flexibleâ sort of tank and I feel like nerfing it into the ground would actively just make this season worse for everyone else.
You donât know what you are talking about man. S3/S4 SL BDK was broken but Exodia, and now VDH is even more broken then BDK was. Go look at the top 1000 keys on those seasons. There are still classes timing 1 or 2 off the top BDK keys.
BDK was like 75%-85% of top 1000 keys, which isnât great and deserved nerfs. VDH are around 95% right now.
VDH literally kills DPS diversity because it synergizes with caster comps more lol
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Meh.
DHâs need their CC Sigil talents basically gutted, or the CC Sigils massively nerfed to compensate.
The talents are fine for the DPS sigils. They make VDH gameplay flow very smoothly. But theyâre pretty bonkers with the silence sigil especially.
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You mean like in season 2 with unkillable guardian druids that dominated all season.
Weird how people have a problem with silence sigils, yet avenger shield procs which happen quite a bit are perfectly fine lol
Forget it, devs donât care, if they would care, this bs would have been fixed in the previous season
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It was a mistake that could have been learned from. The devs didnât learn from it. Just because we had tanks spec that were significantly better than other tank specs in the past doesnât justify that this is happening again.
This issue isnât limited to tanks, either. Resto druids are currently doing 19s. The highest timed keys for resto shamans are 16s. Thatâs 3 key levels difference. But someone at Blizzard thought that resto shamans are as strong as resto druids and nerfed both by 5%.
Prevokers and Disc priests are also only doing 16s, Mistweavers and Holy Priests 17s. Resto druids are substantially ahead of every other healer, and itâs certainly not the first season where we see this.
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