VC or DM? Let's get to the bottom of this once and for all

Back in 2004 The Deadmines was always called VC back in the days of Vanilla. Dire Maul was already a known incoming zone, and its debut was simply right around the corner. We were excited!!

It wasn’t until Cataclysm in 2010 when The Deadmines dungeon would be refurbished and the new birds of wow would call it DM. This was later double downed upon in 2019 with the launching of WoW Classic.

Now, like most things in current times, those who weren’t there, nor want to learn from history, have taken it upon themselves to try and re-write history and say it was always DM.

In Vanilla we called it VC, and VC we call it today.

~Fugaze

You know I always appreciated calling it Deadmines.

I’ll avoid making my Kronk joke using DM, the DM that stands for Deadmines, that DM.

So in my opinion I like just referring to it as Deadmines, but I’ve also never run Dire Maul.

DM is deadmines

you never say LFG DM (diremaul) you say DME/N/W

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VC - Deadmines due to Van Cleef as the final boss.
DM - Dire Maul, usually abreviated by DME (east) DMW (west) DMN(North), the 3 respective dungeons in Dire Maul.

in Classic Wow, it was referred to as DM for Deadmines while people were majority in that leveling bracket, but as the playerbase got up, it was switched to VC like the old days.

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DM. The name of the dungeon is Deadmines, not VanCleef. No other dungeon in the game is identified by its last boss before its name

Dire Maul is DME, DMW, and DMN

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Just combine both DM and VC into DMV.

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No wonder it takes so long, its the DMV!

This topic always separates the true vanilla players from the imposters. It has always been DM since the game released in 2004. I never once saw it called VC during my years of playing back in the day

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I’m just gonna call it ”VAN CLEEF PAY BIG FOR YOUR HEADS!” whenever I want to run it and I’m sure people will know what dungeon I want to run.

extremely simple answer… Dire Maul was not released on launch. Deadmines was.

Wailing Caverns is WC, not Mutanus

Shadowfang keep is SFK not Argul

If you are calling Deadmines VC, You were introduced AFTER Dire Maul Launch, often Referring to BC babies you call Deadmines VC and DM is Dire Maul.

Fun fact tho, DM is two wings, and its DME and DMW. If you walk around spamming for DM, people gonna ask you what wing.

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I called it deadmines in original vanilla. The idea that everybody called it VC is just the streisand effect.

Nobody searches for Dire maul without specifying the wing (N, E, or W) so trying to troll people who say “DM” for deadmines (especially if it’s done in local westfall chat) is always just making anyone who does it look like a moron.

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Seeing as how DM is dire maul, deadmines is VC.

your intelligence is showing

It’s DM. Diremaul is always referred to as which wing you are doing anyway so no confusion there. VC is just one boss, it makes sense to say “VC” if you are doing a quick run without any quests or whatever, but the dungeon is linear so there really is no point to say it like that.

Also, people didn’t start calling it VC until AFTER diremaul was released in 1.3, so it was DM FIRST.

Discussion ended. your welcome.

DM is deadmines, you never just say, DM for diremaul, you always add " north" or whatever.

Once and for all…It’s Cookie’s Cove

People were definitely making a distinction by 2007, and using ‘dm/vc’ as opposed to DM (of some sort).