In Arthas’ case I really hope he doesn’t end up being just a loot pinata raid boss right out the gate with no build up.
In Varian’s case, he might come to help Anduin get back to his senses, sadly at the last minute though.
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Going theory is we already saw ‘Arthas’ when his soul shard got hammered into Kingsmourne.
Varian got disenchanted, body and soul burned up by Fel energy. It’s very unlikely you will see him.
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Varian isn’t going to show up, unless Blizzard retcons how Fel affects the body and soul. He was utterly destroyed, according to the current canon.
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I’m not sure if it’s either of them, and I too would assume that Varian’s soul was destoryed by Fel.
But given the parallels to Arthas, it would be interesting to see Kingsmourne being made with Varian’s soul. Shattering it in the Anduin fight releases his soul ala Terenas Menethil, which helps “free” Anduin, or what have you…
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Souls are used up (potentially) when they’re used for a spell. Gul’dan did not do this with Varian. As far as we know, his soul’s still intact.
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Yeah. I seldom agree with the poster above me, but it is very easy for Blizzard to say that Guldan kept Varian’s soul somewhere because it was powerful or because he could barter it later.
We don’t see Guldan actually consume the soul or use it as fuel for spell work - unless he used the soul of Varian itself to fuel the spell that destroyed him.
As much as it seems Varian is gone- body and soul - there is enough wiggle room for his soul to reappear, without a lot of retcons. Just say Guldan put it in a shard, and he gave it to Malganis, and Malganis absconded with it when he left the Legion to its defeat.
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They may just not use Arthas at all. I know they said that they were very hesitant to tarnish his story, so if they decide they’re too scared to touch him without damaging his character, then they’ll just hold off.
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Is there any written canon for Gul’Dan “completely destroying” Varian’s soul? Or was it just something that looked cool for a cinematic. Seems like collective headcanon.
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The legion did have some soul forges up on the broken shore though. So his soul probably went there and was probably used up.
This is exactly what it is. There is zero evidence to suggest that souls are destroyed simply by being killed by Fel.
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probably
Based on what
He still showed up when Anduin recovered his sword.
This is typical whenever we run into “current canon”, it tends to contradict basic facts that have the impropriety of contradicting the “current narrative”.
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I really hope this is true. The idea that he’s just gone forever is so awful.
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The broken shore scenario where Varian died?
We go through a whole Legion base to get to the Tomb of Sargeras.
But I guess you forgot about that
I’d like to go a little off topic to go back on topic:
What exactly happened to Voljin on The Broken Shore?
My Druid was at 40 Renown and he finished the Night Fae quests before 9.1 was released. I found out that Voljin is connected to Azeroth, and Rezan gave him the last bit of his essence, and The Winter Queen gives him a seed to chillax in for a bit.
But Eyir says the Hand of Valor had something to do with it… and then she refuses to speak more of it. Was “The Hand of Valor” ever brought up again, and I just missed it?
Anyway, something was able to save Voljin’s soul for what ever reason, so I am not so quick to write off Varian’s soul. Maybe “The Hand of Valor” saved him too.
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I want to be wrong about it so bad, thanks for reminding me about this clip. 
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Knowing blizzard, they forgot about that. Or they will try and terribly explain it when a few more influential lore personas (like red shirt guy) bring it back up again. Just take their recent, “how necromancy works in shadowlands” as an example of the latter.
I doubt we will ever get an explanation as to why Eyir hates Bwonsamdi’s guts. I don’t think we even know what the Old Ladies man Loa did to piss off the winter queen either. There are plausible theories for both relationships but nothing official as of yet.
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All things related to the Vol’jin plot and the Sylvanas/Vol’jin/Mueh’zala conspiracy are an artifact of the pre-Jailer arc for Sylvanas. That was all from the team that was writing for Sylvanas before the Jailer was a thing.
Still one of my peeves that people make the Sylvanas-Jailer plot out to be proof that Sylvanas was always selfish, when it was only retconned that her plan was selfish recently. Until BfA, her plot had nothing to do with any of what we’re seeing now.
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Post in exact writing where in the game it says Varian’s soul was specifically used for that.
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I would also like to see this. I’ve heard “Varian was obliterated” so many times on these forums, that I just took it as fact, but now I want to see the evidence.
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