I’m not a competitive M+ player but with blizzard focusing so hard and locking all valor upgrades behind their new rating system. kind of kills the insensitive to even do mythic plus anymore i can get the same quality gear doing Raids or PVP and not even have to touch the valor system.
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go get it lil homie the sky is the limit
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The MOP system was superior.
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Good for you, Mr. Rival 
I will be over here licking the windows in front of that 207 pvp gear while I’m 225 from pve.
The purpose of the Valor System™ was not to help players. It was to increase the time required to play to get benefits and to fool players who hear the name “Valor” into re-subbing, thinking it was bringing back a program they used to enjoy using.
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2k rating to get 246. LOL. Oh blizzard
Add in that you have to also get the item drop in the first place, it’s definitely not worth the effort in 9.1 to do M+ for anything outside of the vault.
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I think it’s fine. I wouldn’t want some idiot who only does random BGs to be able to upgrade all the way to 220. Having to actually do content to get good gear makes total sense to me. The only thing I dislike is the Valor cap, it just seems to arbitrary.
220 will be trash in 9.1. It sounds like you’re saying you want a big increase for yourself but none for your designated victims.
Or they could just do the same content I do and get the same rewards. Seems fair to me.
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So you want to be locked into the top of the ladder for the rest of the expansion, so you can play other games while charging real money for PvP carries like the glads do.
Good thing there used to be a thing called “casual PvP” which included all unrated PvP, otherwise you’d have to worry about running into actual PvP while you’re out farming noobs to try to drive them from the game to earn your free welfare stuff from daddy blizz.
agreed it’s a shame the system has been miss represented, the old system was so good but now it’s trash only to be used by the top 1% as mythic raids are.
Go for it then.
Mythic+ is the easiest and most accessible source of strong gear, but I’d you prefer snd are able to get equivalent or better from pvp or raiding and that’s what in enjoy them great.
The one where dungeons were dead and there was no alternate PvE gearing paths besides raiding for the best gear?
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The current mythic plus is trash compared to when the first system which was introduced in legion blizzard is just making it overly complicated with hard set affixes, seasonal affixes, poor scaling, ect. I figured it would be a down hill slope after the expansion and obtained Keystone master on all toons for the mage tower. As of now it requires all dungeons to be +15 in time while in Legion it was a single dungeon.
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Yes, it’s harder now after being a complete joke in Legion for the gear.
Working as intended.
And it’s still too easy relative to raiding and PvP for the rewards.
But I do understand that many players want very easy content that gives amazing rewards. That’s what makes content “popular”
Working as intended to drive down participation. Now people have less to do, and oh look! People with little to do are leaving the game. Imagine that?
Compared to Legion’s mythic+ community, the community in Shadowlands is utter rubbish. People actually helped each other complete keys. They were rewarded by the game for doing so. But I guess that was something the designers thought was a bad thing so they got rid of that and now encourage wannabe elitists to post trashing people they don’t know and will never meet for being lazy losers.
Easy content for good rewards is popular.
That’s pretty much it.
As is posting on the forums trashing people who are your lessers, eh?
God forbid the game should go back to encouraging players to help each other rather than trying to drive them from the game for jollies?