How good were they? Speaking for both early 60 PvE to late. As well as PvP. You know, the controversial specs people say are bad but some people say aren’t that bad, and ones that don’t get spoken of.
Fury/arms, balance/mele DPS druid, ret paladin, ele/enhance shaman, survival hunter, discipline priest and arcane mage. Can someone educate me about the usefulness of shunned/odd specs? I find this information hard to come by. Thank you :^)
Of all the specs you list, disc priest is the worst.
CLICK THE FRIGGIN LIGHT WELL!!!
Fury topped dps charts & arms dominated PvP. The dps hybrid specs offered nothing that their holy/resto counterparts couldn’t do better.
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Light well was deep holy by the way. Disc was Power Infusion.
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Speaking about disc and arcane specifically, these trees are what I call “enhancement” trees (not to be confused with enhancement shamans). What do I mean by that? You never spec all the way into these trees, but going deep into them is vital for certain builds to function properly. I’m not too familiar with how druids spec their characters, but I think balance could be considered an “enhancement spec” as well.
None of what you listed is “full meme.”. They’re simply niche - Ele/Enh, Balance, Ret, and Arms are just fine in PvP.
Disc isn’t much different than Holy, especially because of how dumb Lightwell is.
I guess Arcane is a gimmick.
Lastly, Survival is only meme if the person is trying to be a full blown Melee Hunter.
There aren’t a lot of completely useless specs in Vanilla. You simply don’t take the ones listed above to a min-max raid unless you’re asking your buddies to carry you.
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This is kinda misleading.
For Disc you absolutely want some priests with Power Infusion either for your top mages or for your tank healers during burst/movement phases. It’s not a necessity but most guilds will roll with at least one PI priest.
For mages, during MC/BWL content if you have at least 1-2 full frost mages to apply winter’s chill buff than full Arcane + Frost is fantastic if you have the hit.
Priest-Holy is the tree with Light Well and along with Paladin-Ret are probably the two most useless 31 point talents.
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I stand corrected. I also stand by my statement…
CLICK THE FRIGGIN LIGHT WELL!!!
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Off-specs and non-meta builds are much more forgiving In PvP and smaller dungeons than raiding.
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i play all specs and none are bad. its only the players opinion or their skill levels that dictate what is bad or not… just coz somebody says it is, doesn’t mean its bad, its just thier opinon.
Sure some specs take longer to kill things, but whats the rush? there is no prize for getting something done quicker than somebody taking longer. Each class has different skills they use, and each kill either quicker or slower, but the end result is still a kill, and again there is no prize for doing it faster or slower.
re: raiding… all specs are viable. I proved this by running an unorthodox guild and clearing naxx using unorthodox builds. So anybody who says raiding is only for cookie cutters is full of it.
Fury and Arms are very common since they are OP af. Fury is the best DPS spec in PvE and Arms can be best in PvP with a pocket healer.
Also, Disc Priest and Cat are pretty good when you’re speedrunning farmed content. Ret might be too.
Besides, no one is going to click that lightwell
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I am unaware of any use for balance druid. Maybe someone else knows but I don’t remember even seeing that many of them. But it was a long time ago.
As a frost mage you absolutely spec deep into arcane. It allows for max frost dps and mana conservation. Arcane power is the 31 point talent from arcane tree. plus Arcane Meditation for the mana regen.
Practically every spec is great to OK in pvp, pvp and pve are totally different beasts.
Its extremely rare in pvp that you cant leave combat during a 6 minute period to find time to drink and replenish your mana. Where as in a raid, that isnt the case.
That alone solves most every specs issues.
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Never saw a resto druid tank a raid boss in bear form, but maybe I just missed it
What are you talking about? SV Hunter had higher DPS than MM when you had more gear.
The 15% agi talent outperformed MM’s +weapondamage talent once you had enough agi.
Also, as a disc priest who cleared mc-bwl in vanilla, i far outperformed the holy priests hands down.
Lightwell was lame holy
Yes survival hunters rocked the dps, compared to their counterparts
Who told you arms/fury war wasn’t useful? Fury is the top dps spec for PvE (barring maybe the 1 fire mage who got the ignite buff in AQ40-Naxx), and arms is one of, if not THE, best group pvp spec. Nothing about the Warrior is useless