"Upgrading" Loot murders this game

That mind set is why the game is in decline. More and more games are focusing on casuals. When your focus is on the elite. People will move on,

You generally still needed to kill a harder boss, or do something ridiculous to get the best items in the game

In the decline? Most reports overall show wow is doing just fine

If you give gear out for free it devalues the content

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The issue is the jump from 8 to 10 imo.

Its not 2 levels…its 12.

Its literally like comparing heroic or even basic to m8 lol

? It’s not nearly that much, if you can do an 8 you can do a 10, 12 is where the big jump is

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Ff9, ff8, chrono trigger, chrono cross, suikoden 1 2 3 4 5.

All could be beaten with basic gear and level 20 or under, and some of them even had hidden easter eggs for doing so in a short period of time. Remakes have the option to turn off leveling entirely.

Excalibur II for example in ff9.

FF12 as well.

But beating ff9 to get that was a huge feat, like it’s not always about how hard it was, but sometimes doing ridiculous things like 0.0 time in chocobo racing in10

They weren’t just given to you

No clue what you’re talking about mate, the fact that a game has scaling doesn’t remove the fact that the more you advance in it, the harder the game SHOULD be.

It`s been like this since the foundation of video games, level 2 is harder than level 1. if you cant beat level 2 you will never reach level 3. It’s like this since tetris, street fighter, super mario world, up to Elden Ring.

There is an element to challenge vs reward/advancement.

Just saying the games were designed to allow you to clear them without gear or grinding by simply understanding how combat worked and following the story.

And you can clear wow without gear or grinding if you’re content to doing just the story

Everything else is bonus content

Actually you can’t. Dare you to try killing story mode ansurek naked lol.

You can do it in the gear questing through the story gives you

Doing it naked sounds like a challenge run

No one is killing the last boss of any rpg naked normally

The only upgrades that matter are Hero and Myth, everything else just comes in by almost everything in the game with ease.

Not that big of a deal.

This. People were groveling for a gear upgrade system before. I agree they can modify the current system for sure, but I doubt they’ll get rid of it, considering players asked for it to begin with.

Nobody asked for anything remotely like this. Their first attempt was PvP gear in Shadowlands, which pretty much wiped out most PvP.

I think gear should be upgradeable in the same content it was earned in. Only a few upgrades, want more? Do harder content to earn better gear and upgrades.

If you’re saying that players were demanding a system where most of them would be hard stuck out of the content that was required to upgrade their gear, that’s nothing but a lie.

I’m over this system as well tbh. You guys seriously aren’t? I’ve said this a thousand times, but it’d be a lot more bearable if the cost to upgrade was cut in half.

Nobody was asking for an upgrade system like this either. Idk why people keep saying that. People wanted deterministic gearing.

I think its way better then the old RNG that really determined gear up through TBC and beyond. The nice thing about the upgrade system is it gives you a straight forward path to making your gear better even if you don’t get the drops you want.

The only thing the gearing system is missing is a way to move an item up through upgrade tracks.

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It’s exceedingly confusing.

The other option would be one or two levels of gear with increasing upgrade costs and increasing rewards from higher level content.

And they kind of had it this way before and the problem was people just farmed 2’s for gear. So what I think they’re trying to avoid is more experienced players farming 2’s and less experienced players trying to upgrade gear with monumental grinds in 2’s.

So you need to set your target and be more strategic on how you spend your upgrades. If it’s piece of gear you think you’ll be replacing soon, don’t upgrade it.

And it is more engaging than sitting around all week waiting for a vault disappointment.

Just remove the crest cap, I have hero gear that I can’t upgrade because I’m capped on Runed Crests while farming Gilded Crests. Absolutely horrible.

(Or let me pay either more from the lower tier or less from the upper tier to get those pieces to Gilded upgrade level)