Hi!
I’m planning on upgrading my cpu from 5600 to 5700x3d, do you tech guys think it’s worth upgrading? I play at 3440x1440p resolution with a 4070 super (gigabyte x570 ud + 32gb ddr4)
I’m on a limited budget, so in my setup it’s the only upgrade that might be worth it.
I’m also wanting to play RDR2, Horizon (The new one), AC series, DD2, GoW, GTA6 when it comes out and so on…
Without any doubt, it would absolutely be worth it. WoW benefits from that 3D cache more than almost any other game out there aside from maybe MS Flight Simulator. That 5700X3D would be even faster in WoW than a $700 Intel 14900KS. It certainly wouldn’t be slow in those other games either.
The difference will be night and day. WoW is one of those games that MASSIVELY benefits from X3D game cache. However id get the 5800x3D if your budget can afford it
It wont just be an upgrade in gaming for you but in literally everything you do on your PC where the 5600x3D is just a gaming upgrade. WoW will 100% use all 8 cores of the 5800x3D
Thanks for the answers guys!
However, there are two small things that are bothering me:
In most reviews I see comparing 5700x3D vs 5800x3D, the difference is small, which leads to:
The price difference between these two models, in my country, is something to consider. A difference of 200~250 USD from one to the other.
However, if the performance of the 5800x3D against the 5700x3D in WOW is something substantial, do you think it would be worth waiting a little longer and then purchasing the 5800x3D?
The 5800X3D was the first X3D chip released for the AM4 socket, later in it’s life, almost as an experiment. It was a huge hit and that’s why they’ve expanded upon that with the newer AM5 X3D CPUs (7000 series).
The 5700X3D and 5600X3D both came after the 5800X3D, and are both simply 5800X3D chips that did not pass quality-control, for different reasons.
In the case of the 5700X3D, all 8 cores are functional, but at least some of them cannot maintain adequate boost speeds. These were eventually rebranded as 5700X3D chips. The only difference between the 5700X3D and 5800X3D is that the 5700X3D has lower clock speeds, resulting in an effective 12% performance reduction in most cases (compared to the 5800X3D).
In the case of the 5600X3D, one or two cores were found to be defective. 2 cores are then disabled and it becomes a 6-core 5600X3D. However, the cores that were not defective are still able maintain essentially full speeds on each core (unlike the the cores on the 5700X3D). They knocked the speeds down ever so slightly anyway, but not to the same degree as with the 5700X3D.
So the cores on the 5600X3D are actually faster than the cores on the 5700X3D, and practically the same speed as the cores on the 5800X3D, but you only get 6 of them.
With the 5700X3D, you get all 8 cores, but with a ~12% speed reduction due to reduced clockspeeds.
So unless you actually need 8 cores, the 5600X3D will actually be faster than the 5700X3D in most cases.
5800X3D vs 5600X3D (notice almost identical performance at lower core utilization):
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X3D-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X3D/m1817839vsm21424715700X3D vs 5600X3D (notice how the 5600X3D spanks the 5700X3D in any task that isn’t fully utilizing all 8 cores):
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-5700X3D-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X3D/m2280831vsm2142471Below is a very informative article that covers many games (not WoW unfortunately). It includes the 5600x, 5600X3D, and 5800X3D, although it doesn’t have the 5700X3D. It shows how well the 5600X3D keeps up with the 5800X3D in basically all games.
Note how if you were to upgrade your 5600X to a 5800X (not giving you any extra cache, but giving you two extra cores), that would give you essentially zero performance increase for gaming.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2811-cpu-cache-vs-cores/This picture in particular (it won’t let me post the picture directly):
https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2811/bench/Average-p.webpThe thing is, that statement is completely incorrect.
WoW is one of the least multi-threaded games that is still commonly played.
There are substantial elements of the game that still only use one core.
Overall, WoW will spend most of it’s time using 1-3 cores.
Occasionally you will see it use up to 4 cores.
When the stars align, you might see it use slightly more than 4 cores for extremely brief periods of time.
So for all intents and purposes, WoW receives almost no benefit from anything past 4 cores. 6 cores minimum is ideal, not because WoW will actually use 6 cores, but because that gives you 2-3 extra cores to handle background tasks on top of what the game itself needs.
There will be no difference whatsoever between 6 and 8 cores in WoW, unless you commonly run CPU intensive tasks in the background while you game (beyond normal operating system background tasks and things like Discord).
Thank you very much for the tech class <3
Cool, but unfortunately the 5600x3D isn’t sold in my country, it’s an exclusive model for the USA and if I’m going to import it, it’s not worth it, as the import taxes + CPU cost will be more expensive than a 5800x3D here in my country. 
Small in AAA gaming ONLY. The difference will be noticeable outside of gaming. Also thats mainstream games. WoW is a CPU based game. It also benefits Massively from Vcache. The difference in wow will be much bigger than in other Games
The 5800x3D is better in all aspects. Juts get it. You will be glad you did
The 5800X3D is the most powerful CPU you can possibly buy for AM4, so if you plan on keeping the platform for a while (which it sounds like it), it’s a worthwhile investment. You can check out benchmarks, but the 5800X3D hangs with AM5 and modern Intel CPUs pretty damn well. The X3D chips are also pretty efficient compared to a lot of other CPUs (namely Intel’s stuff eats a lot of power and generates a lot of heat).
Again, there isn’t a CPU upgrade beyond that; you have to rebuild to a new socket, such as AM5.
Generally, for people changing sockets or doing a rebuild, it’s recommended going AM5, but for anyone on AM4 it’s considered a worthwhile investment to get a 5700X3D or 5800X3D. Since I was running on an old i7-8700k, I went for AM5 and a 7800X3D, but I bought my brother a 5600X for his AM4 setup as a Christmas gift (and later just bought him the Micro Center 7700X AM5 bundle, and his wife got his AM4 setup).