Glad we’re catering to dumb people who “hate torg and probably still will” rather than people who enjoyed it and wanted MORE challenge.
Seems like a good long term strategy for blizzard.
lmao
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We’re dumb because we don’t wanna be forced to do something, YOU enjoy. If you enjoy it ask for a challenge mode. Instead of making the forced side content instead something needed and an annoyance… you’re in the minority that enjoy it. Grow up with the name calling my dude.
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This is assuming you are not dumb yourself for not understanding the simple fact that Torghast was meant to be fun + Challenge mode in the forms of Twisting Corridors.
I was one of those who didn’t look for nerfs and enjoyed it but please stop calling others dumb when you spout nonsense yourself. Look in the mirror.
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Good for you? Druid was one of the easiest classes to do it on. Convoke, self healing, boomkins doing great dps. Try prenerf with a rogue.
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how was it forced? for the 15-20 ilvl on legendary by that same logic you are forced to do mythic raids because they are a ilvl upgrade
everyone could get the baseline legendary by now eitherway so you get the effect if you wanted it
Encountered that miserable boss in Layer 7 of Upper Reaches on Mage pre NERF.
I have never laughed harder 
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How is it not forced? How do you make a legendary? Soul ash from Torghast. How do you upgrade said legendries? Soul Ash from Torghast. Legendries are important… whether PVP or PVE. Baseline won’t be enough for long…
Also comparing mythics and raids to torghast doesn’t make much sense… you can actually get item upgrades there and it’s not as much of a nescience. So I ask you this as well, does a 190ilvl purple shoulders equal that 190ilvl legendary who’s stats you can choose and has an added effect of YOUR CHOICE?
Also you can gear til 184 with honor gear and if you’re good you can get that conquest gear quickly… you don’t need to do any mythics.
you can get soulash from lvl 1 torghast and mission tables lvl 8 was never forced
The lower layers of Torghast still drop soul ash and since it’s front-loaded to the lower layers, you won’t get your upgrades much slower chaining layer 5s than the guy chaining layer 8s. Torghast as a concept is required. Layer 8s very much aren’t.
So basically, you’re telling the majority of the game to just accept miniscule amount of something because you want that forced content to stay “difficult” because YOU enjoy it… doesn’t blizz have a challenge mode for people like you? I’m stoked with the nerfs, you don’t like it… that’s on you, your class had it easy either way.
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Soul ash is still front loaded in the early layers. I’d hardly call that minuscule.
what are are you talking about? miniscule do you even know what that means? like other people said the soulash is frontloaded to lower lvls so you get most of it from faceroll content.
The higher lvls give you miniscule incremental amounts, get your facts right.
By your same logic why not give honor vendors upgrades now up to ilvl 250 and trivialize everything in the game
Oh man, so half the amount… so because you enjoy it, the player base should suffer for the minority? Again, challenge mode a thing?
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Your logic is embarrassing… plus you’re aren’t bringing anything and i’m just repeating myself over and over, you want the many to suffer for the few because you enjoy the content at which your class excells. Anything else?
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I like the changes, because previously it was too difficult as MM and had to switch to BM.
Torghast was fun on the beta because it made you OP.
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Front loaded means more than half. If you want half the amount of ash as a layer 8 champion you’d do a layer 2 and a layer 3 every week. That’s how low the bar for “half” is.
If you continuously do layer 5s every every week you’ll be about a week behind the layer 8 champion. It’s not taking you twice as long to get your legendaries.
For the record, the 120 soul ash from the mission table represents triple the amount you get graduating from a layer 7 to a layer 8. In fact, do a layer 6 and a mission table and you’re officially a member of the layer 8 club. Given that these nerfs made layer 8s the same difficulty as layer 6 used to be that sounds reasonable to me.
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Yeah. Item level scaling is not okay in the open world. Level scaling with a base power that doesn’t increase with your item level I’d be okay with. Again though like you said, insane.
I wish bear had better dps, it’s so awful though on bosses for single target
I got my shaman yesterday to 60 his aprox ilvl 155 and i can run in ghost wolf pull the whole floor and AOE them down at the floor boss at lvl 1 torghast and thats most of the soulash from a destroyed content thats as elemental.
So im sure people could do lvl 4-5 even if you are semi twitched out and playing with 1 hand and get most of the soulash probably in the range of 70-90%.
higher lvls being difficult a problem? they are meant to be hard
Look, I don’t care what you think you can do… the nerf is extremely welcome, you don’t like it… that’s on you, your class excels at it. It’s forced content whether you wanna hear it or not… unless you don’t want any legendries. The people that enjoy it, should have a challenge mode… but for people who don’t like it, shouldn’t be forced to slowly grind though an hour or so into a content that is clearly hated by the majority, to potentially have that time be wasted because the bosses are killing them or RNG wasn’t on their side. Majority rules dude.
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