Why not let people try the harder ones?
Why gate it even more because players are too stupid to think “maybe this floor with a higher number is harder?”
Unnatural power stacks are gained when elites are attacking trash on higher level floors. I think this should be reverted to only happen when engaging with a player character.
Well Torghast fixes seem to be incoming so I will head out for now. See you guys if it gets terrible again and I need to scream about it
Nicely dodging the question, I know you’re full of 
now.
I’m not upset at all. Nothing in my post conveyed that I was upset. I had an opinion formed from my experience and I’m happy Blizzard listened to feedback like mine.
My position is no more or less nonsense than yours.
I agree. If you think this is my mindset, you aren’t reading my posts.
that was a factor but not the only factor by any means. the super mario brothers “lost levels” were still plenty difficult when they re-released them on the snes and let you save progress.
Try and make sense - my brain hurt trying to read that.
Are you saying …me…the real person, is defensive? …even if true - related how?
Or that my character has defensive abilities? - yours doesn’t? are you saying that?
Confused.
when will all the updates for torghast be in? i did layer 8 of one side and need to do layer 8 of the other but will just wait till its fully nerfed so i can breeze through it.
Typically, I go before I start.
If I have to go again in the hour it takes me, I need to reevaluate my water intake.
Floor 3 and 6 are safe.
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So your expansion’s premier solo content is still pointless to attempt to solo.
Got it.
Those were the days. Although Ninja Gaiden 1 was my Torghast challenge back in the day.
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Lol. Wanting challenging content is elitist? I see where some of these problems lie.
Also, inflating my opinion to bash it turns it into a strawman.
But there’s also this.
EDIT: Basically, I’m not holding my breath that Twisting is going to be, or if it is, stay a challenge.
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Thank you! Looking forward to having some proper fun in there!
So is this in effect yet or not until next reset?
did you ignore the bits about nerfs to their health in general?
not sayign perfect but they are showing willingness to change it if needed.
battle kid was brutal.
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I was able to complete layer 8 on 2 different toons. Was it challenging? Sure, of course it was. Shouldn’t it be? Oh well now, I guess. It’s frustrating that most of the people that were complaining did honestly just seem to be trying to approach it undergeared or playing badly (not handling mechs) and it’s now being weakened to cater to that.
Couldn’t there be a differentiation? Seperate layer 7 and 8 and clearly list it as more difficult or something? Nah, let’s just turn the dial down to easy mode on everything. I guess that’s easier than balancing the class issues that did actually seem to be a legit thing.
Now Torghast will get old/boring pretty fast… especially since they don’t seem to have listened on the fact that outside of soul ash there’s barely any reason to consider touching it.
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Yeah dude you gave a few examples of harder modern games. I already thought of Dark Souls. Like I said, there are some exceptions, but they were the NORM back then.
Almost every AAA title today is not that challenging: half of the game is cut-scenes, lets you restart from 5 secs before you failed if you ever even fail, etc.
Could you name any long-time franchise where the current games are more difficult than the originals?
You are not disproving my point at all, dude. Go look up lists for hardest games ever and I guarantee the vast majority of them were not made in the last 2 decades.
It’s not just pee time it’s life - sometimes I gotta step away from my PC for family/household things. If I’m just questing I usually run up a hill away from mobs. But in Torghast there’s nowhere to hide.
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It’s funny, you would think islands and warfronts were adored content with how many posts want to turn Torghast into a quick aoe fest run.
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It’s such a waste… Level 7 torghast was the first time since my very first heroic dungeon ever playing wow in cata that I felt that fear and shame of failing. I utterly failed to heal that heroic dungeon. While I didn’t fail that level 7, I came really close. I’m so glad I recorded it because it’s most likely there will never be a challenge like it again. I breezed through level 8 because I adjusted my approach based on my level 7 experience, which was intense. Such a waste blizz.