Unsubbing After 10 years of WoW

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Hello WoW friends. To be completely honest, this is not just some “I’m quitting” post. No you can’t have my stuff. I’ve just run out of reasons to play WoW anymore so the time has come for me to cancel my sub after 10 years. I will post my reasons for doing so in a bit but I’d like to say that I have had an active subscription the entire time I’ve been playing WoW and haven’t taken one break this entire time.

I have been addicted to WoW and have absolutely love the game for many years up until recently. I’ve actually been playing WoW since BC but I’ve had this account for 10 years and it has been active the entire time. I will not be coming back until things drastically change. Now here are my reasons…

Class design:

This is my harshest critic of the game as of late. Keep in mind that I have played all classes and specs for at least 9 years. My absolute favorite iteration of class design was back in MoP. I was even happy with the class design in WoD to be honest.

Legion was where my love for class design started to drift away. I logged into the Alpha for Legion and started playing my favorite classes (especially hunter) and I was incredibly disappointed. I’ve been trying ever since to try to give as much feedback and criticism as possible but the changes that we’ve received since haven’t even come close to what I would hope for.

Class design has gotten so bad that I literally fall asleep playing most classes/specs. I am not even joking. Hunter used to be my favorite class to play but now I can’t even stand to look at my Hunters anymore.

Pruning has gone just way too far where I’m concerned. The skill cap to play classes has become so low that I just simply don’t have fun playing any class or spec anymore. I just feel like I’m pressing buttons because they’re there to press.

In my opinion talents shouldn’t have abilities that finish out a classes’ rotation. There shouldn’t be so many choices between AoE/Single target choices. There shouldn’t be pruned abilities up on the talent tree! I’m looking at you Shadow Word: Pain! Along with countless others. Classes should be finished before talents. Period. Talents should improve your game play, not finish your rotation.

Professions:

For the people that know me well know that I’ve made an absolute killing in this game the last 7 or so years just with professions alone. In Legion I didn’t make a whole lot with professions but I still made some money. In BfA I’ve made absolutely nothing. Spending time on professions just isn’t worth the time sink anymore because the return from professions is abysmal compared to years past.

Professions just aren’t nearly as rewarding or fun as they have been in past expansions and this is one aspect of the game that has held my attention whenever I get bored of the current end game content or if I only have a few minutes a day to play.

Rewards:

Now some people may dispute this and I wouldn’t argue anybody’s opinion about this but I personally do not like the reward system in BfA one bit. For one, obtaining any piece of gear that has a potential to just not be an upgrade or a reward is a huge flaw in the reward design itself. I’m talking about Azerite gear but also this would bring me to my next point.

A dev had stated in a Q&A that the Azerite gear was supposed to have been replacing tier gear in the sense that it would give you the same type of effects that tier gear used to have. Sure the Azerite gear do have perks on them but it’s not even remotely as interesting as getting a 4 set was back in the day. Azerite gear is incredibly boring and stupid to obtain because you have to farm multiple pieces of the same gear if you want to swap out different specs.

Omfg… I could go on in a whole post about this alone so I’ll just leave it at that because I’m sure most of you know where I’d go with it. Tier gear was way better than this Azerite gear crap. Even with 8.1 the Azerite gear is still going to be disappointing compared to what tier gear was back prior to BfA.

To reiterate on how important class design is to me…

The whole reason why I became so addicted to the game was because of class design and professions.

To me, if class design just isn’t there and I’m not having fun playing my character than I will have absolutely zero fun doing any of the content in WoW. If you ask me if there’s enough to do in WoW I’d actually tell you “Hell yes there is!” because I really do think there is and this is what brings me down so much.

There’s so much to do. There’s so much that I WANT to do but the fact that I do not have fun playing any class or spec anymore completely makes me lose motiviation to do ANYTHING whatsoever. I just simply do not care anymore because I do not feel powerful when I achieve anything.

The reason why the pruning went way too far is because this reduced the skill cap IMMENSELY once Legion went live. It was insane how easy classes became to play even in Legion. I can remember an insane amount of situations whether it be arenas, raids, battlegrounds, world pvp, scenarios (MoP), dungeons where I absolutely shined as a player because I had mastered the class/spec that I was playing in whatever content I was doing.

I became an absolute GOD to the people that knew me as a player. I killed Garrosh over 100 times back in 5.4 and I raid lead most of those kills. I could literally bring any class and role that I wanted to to any type of content that I wanted to because everyone knew that I could play any class or spec 100% optimally. I carried so many people in arenas because I just simply could. I didn’t ask anyone for money because I had an insanely fun time owning people.

The GCD for Hunters and DK’s made the game play for them so much slower and not only did the GCD get increased by a whole .5 seconds but the runic system got changed to only Frost, Blood or Unholy and Hunters lost an insane amount of ability presses with the GCD increase.

My first character on this account was a Hunter. I have created 6 Hunters altogether since I first opened this account because I had such a great time playing the class. Now I haven’t even leveled any Hunter past level 110. The class is dead to me because of how dumbed down and simple they are to play anymore.

DK was the second character I created on this account and my toon Ruffer was my first toon to max level. I was playing on a PvP server at the time and I won’t lie, I was a noob once I got to max level and I struggled for a little bit but once I got some gear from Heroic dungeons back in Cata I started owning people left and right. Anybody who tried to take me on got absolutely crushed. Guess why. Because I learned how to play the class.

The skill cap for classes needs to be high. Screw dumbing it all down for new players because guess what Blizzard… I was a new player once. We all were. The fact that I took the time and learned how to master the classes I play now, that right there is why I became so damn engaged in this game. Because I sucked. I knew it. I taught myself a lot. I read guides on how to play my classes better and I got BETTER. That was a reward in itself. This just simply does not exist anymore because anyone can just pick up any class and any spec and just press the buttons that are there and get rewarded for doing so. It’s like getting a participation trophy.

To me it looks like the devs of WoW are just trying to dumb down the game more and more with each expansion. Nothing really feels rewarding anymore. I won’t be coming back in 8.1 because nothing seems to be getting better. The devs still haven’t learned how BAD class design is and they absolutely refuse to make it any better. It really saddens me that I’ve gotten to this point. I used to be such a huge Blizzard fan boy. The game has become unfun for me to play.

For those who say that I’ve just gotten bored of the game, you sir/ma’am are absolutely wrong. I have actually played older versions of WoW and that excitement that I used to get came rushing back the second I started playing. Trust me, it’s not me. I’ve spent many many hours digesting the thought of if I was getting sick of WoW itself or if WoW has just become unfun to play. Ultimately… The enjoyment that WoW has to offer me now is literally a fraction of what it was prior to Legion.

WoW has been turned into a game that isn’t made for the gamer anymore and now I see this in its fullest.

And again… No you can’t have my stuff… I’ll see you if/when things get better.

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Just wanted to say I read your post and understand your feeling. I played since classic and struggle to stay invested when the game is so on rails and I agree the classes are no longer fun. I used to bring my own self to the game as you also did ,but now its very hard to engage the game with the players own creatiivity. Good luck!

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Fare forward, traveler.

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Very good post. Farewell, I am on my way too. Maybe we can travel together.

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If you’re not really enjoying the game then maybe it’s best to leave for a while. Hopefully the game will change for the better and you’ll try it again someday.

This is the kind of quitting post that the devs need to read. Very well written and stating exactly why you’re unhappy. I wish more people would write posts like yours.

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Fun is a feeling. Boredom is a feeling. Excitement is a feeling. People are not all equally good at understanding their feelings, nor are they under any obligation to analyze until they are able to break it down into chewable bites.

There have been plenty of posts explaining what’s wrong with this expansion. Devs have chosen to ignore them.

It is not the players’ fault the game is in the state it is. But at least they didn’t send in one of those gold beggar posters to mock the OP.

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Huh, strange I always feel something to do, wether to farm a mount or a set for one of my alts etc .

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take a break come back from classic remember how strong mages were in pvp?

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I hope you do find something fun for you.

There is so much in this game for me to do and it still remains fun enough to continue playing. Two more of my kids are talking about joining, then I’ll be able to form our own dungeon groups with brother and 3 kids.

Still I won’t say that BfA could use some work. The world is vibrant visually and audibly, but somethings could really be improved such as professions as you said.
I really don’t like that scrapper machine.

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I’ve unsubbed and deleted the game too. The “fixes” for Enhancement Shaman were the last straw for me. I can’t enjoy the content if I don’t enjoy any of my classes. Fix the classes and I’ll be back.

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Read the entire thing - what a post! I entirely agree with you on class design. Specifically, there’s little depth in the classes/specializations nowadays, and it just feels… boring to play most of the specs I used to enjoy (and I used to play most all of the class specs on a fairly consistent rotation). Much of the variance that was available with older talent trees and the overall ‘class’ abilities offered opportunities for truly mastering your class, which are, for the most part, gone in modern WoW. In addition, many specs actually play similar to one another and it just feels like “rehashed [other spec]”. Throw in GCD and… yeah, obviously it becomes even more boring.

I really like your point on the talents - I agree they should really only add to the spec, not be some way to complete it. Unfortunately, a lot of what should be basic abilities for the specs are now in our talent trees, and it’s just… it’s not good, imo. I’d prefer pure passive talents than what we have now, honestly, if it meant specs were baseline ‘completed’ with the various abilities.

Hopefully things can make a change for the better, but I doubt it will. Blizz seems more intent on ‘simplifying’ everything.

Good luck and safe travels, OP. Here’s to finding something that will give you more enjoyment.

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Farewell friend! hopefully you can find enjoyment elsewhere!

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Yeah, I agree that Azerite gear is the biggest fail in the history of Wow and that is really saying something. Luckily there is a lot to do in older content still.

Enjoy where your travels take you OP!

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Could I stop you right there and say that this ABSOLUTELY IS some “I’m quitting” post. (which is what your second sentence says it is NOT)

I am sorry you no longer like the game.

And… I very much do not appreciate lying. (or being out of touch with reality)

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Bye Faraya and I think you’re 100% correct. At this point, is Blizzard intentionally sabotaging WoW in order to switch focus to other games/platforms? Is WoW too expensive to run versus the benefits of a mobile game (for example)?

It’s really not that hard to listen to 4 months of feedback, “pretend” you’re listening to the community, then draw up a plan to make the necessary changes. But we’ve basically got radio silence.

It’s really strange. It’ll kill WoW in the end.

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I mean the game is just plain bad quite frankly. There’s not much more to say. A lot of games are terrible now, and it’s completely due to lack of market competition in each sector. We have giant firms dominating each sector and preventing innovation. So, we get the same rehashed stuff year after year. It gets old, but investors don’t want to take a risk when games are so expensive to make nowadays. It’s just going to get worse.

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Thank you to all the people wishing me the best of luck. All the responses I’ve received thus far has meant a lot to me.

I’ve loved this game for so long and I don’t just want to up and leave but the things I mentioned in my OP are just things that I can’t ignore anymore.

I do hope the game gets better because if it does then I will 100% be coming back.

And to the guy that said that this wasn’t just another “I’m quitting” post, it’s not because I’m actually in subbing for real. Not just ranting.

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No interest in Classic, OP?

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I will definitely be giving classic a try. I didn’t play much in classic but I want to see how I will like it. Through playing the demo, I definitely enjoyed playing hunter way more than current hunter. One word. Ammo!! Lol.

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Sure alot of stuff to type up for the game you will never see again. Hope it’s worth it! :sleepy:

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