Unpopular opinion: BFA's pitfalls are greatly exaggerated and, overall, the expansion had really awesome features with so so implementation

Thats just like… your opinion maaaaaaan.
Personally I think TBC>MISTS>LEGION, anything else is just… bleh

I don’t think it is a problem of a so so implementation. I don’t think there is actually a right way to implement:

  • Forced PVP for crafting, PVE essences, etc.
  • Excessive time gating for activities that let you grind in the past.
  • RNG proc gear rendering ilevel progression largely meaningless.

And many other terrible decisions.

But I hear what you’re saying. I liked a lot about BfA as well, mainly the zones and visuals, some of the music, and questing and world events were more or less on point.

For SL to “bring it home” however, they would have to walk back a LOT of these terrible design decisions inserted to boost time played metrics at the cost of player enjoyment.

My confidence they will do so is low, but I remain hopeful.

I am however VERY concerned about covenants locking you in to either your preferred cosmetics OR abilities needed for your class.

It’s literally layers of bad.

Essences are mandatory so you need to do aged content to get them.
Which would be fine if they were the LAST patch but they weren’t.

Imagine if we got NLC at the Broken Shore or Suramar and another system on Argus. We’d think Legion was meh too.

Okay systems, but horrible implementation.

UNPOPULAR OPINION

Facts.

hello cognitive dissonance.

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I’d love to hear more about these “really awesome features.”

Maybe I missed them.

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Agreed. Haters gonna hate.

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I think the zones, art, music, and zone quests were top notch. The faction capitals were some of the best cities blizzard has ever designed. The raids and dungeons were great. World pvp was fun as I can remember and I think war mode worked out as well as it could with the faction imbalance. Those part of BFA are top teir imo.

The layers and layers of random systems and the abandonment of class identity and the significance of class skills - e.g. critical game play elements are the huge pitfalls. And that’s really not forgivable. Above all else, a game needs to be fun and rewarding, not an endless grind of what results more often than not in disappointment and frustrating gear mechanics.

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Wasn’t it?
Transmogrification
Farming old content
Group Finder
Raid Finder (I count these two separate since this one is divisive (yet extremely popular) but for some reason no one complains about finding groups for dungeons)

It was not. One reason was that a lot of time had been spent on revamping the vanilla wow zones, which was not something that players experienced at max level.

It didn’t feel like the expansion had much of an identity initially, because there was no new continent, just fragmented zones, and no new capital city. A lot of complaints about just logging in to queue in Stormwind or Orgrimmar, then logging out. There was also a big spike in dungeon difficulty, as 5-mans had become completely trivial by the end of Lich King.

By the end of the expansion, some popular new features had been added, but a lot of MoP’s design was basically a response to the relatively poor initial reception of Cataclysm. Exploration, more focus on world content, more activities at max level, etc.

Big true. I’ll never do this again. I just wanted to talk about how I liked BFA.

Do you subscribe each month? If so your opinion matters the same as any mythic raiding hardcore player.

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Wrong again, Cataclysm was very well received. WoW had the largest amount of subs at the start of Cataclysm; and don’t bring me that “it was because of LK” argument because they didn’t peak when ICC was released, they peaked during Cata pre-patch and release.
The problem with Cataclysm was that the content released during the expansion was lackluster:

  • 8.1 had 2 new dungeons.
  • 8.2 had a lot of content, but they dropped the ball by gating a lot of it behind molten front which was extremely grindy.
  • 8.3 had a new raid and a new dungeon, but the drought that followed was extremely long (a whole year if I’m not mistaken which in turn affected MoP’s release).

I’m aware of Cataclysm’s flaws and it’s not nearly as good as WotLK, MoP or Legion, but it’s by no means a bad expansion.

That’s like a sequel’s opening weekend being indicative of the first movie’s reception, while the sequel’s box office legs are indicative of audience response to that particular movie.

Hype, basically.

There was ton of hype for Cataclysm, of course, because the game was at its peak, but there was a ton of hype for Warlords as well. People don’t know what the expansion will actually be like until they play it.

I’m not saying that the whole expansion was objectively bad, or anything like that. There were plenty of good additions to the game during that time, but there’s really no way to argue that the reception wasn’t mixed compared to the prior two expansions.

It was something discussed openly by the developers at the time, particularly the fact that they underestimated the importance of having a new continent to explore.

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If you ignore class design (particularly hunters), RNG (Essences, Azerite, Artifact Power), the story, crafting, and Pathfinder. Yep. Good.

Seriously. Legion broke my heart when they stripped my hunter and removed my main spec. It’s the first time I ever quit the game for more than a few months (3 years). Came back a few weeks ago and have been fiddling around with my hunter a bit, but I’m not committed enough to start raiding again.

The game itself is good. I love WoW. I like the expansion (minus those things above). I enjoy the World Quest Mechanism, but I wish Mechagon followed the same system. The graphics and the world are very cool. The quests are nice and quick; beats grinding 100 turtles for 12 turtle meat. Love the characters in the game. But God, I really wish they would give me back my old main.

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Such awesome features that you couldn’t be bothered to list any, it seems.

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I mean, theirs no problem with that. You can do that.

I just think your usage of the word “Facts” here was weird one.

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