Part of being a grown up is dealing with the consequences of your actions.
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I’ll go ahead and answer all of you at once…
Classic would not have happened without Retail players, they don’t get all the credit but some.
Because
If the actual franchise had been shut down due to the horrible financials, Classic would have gone down with Retail as well.
MMO’s don’t just get resurrected from the ashes like a Final Fantasy game did after being shut down.
If Retail had ended before now, it all would have been over. Studio shut down, layoffs galore. Everything gone.
If retail got shut down then those wanting classic would just be on private servers.
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This is wrong. Warcraft 3 had virtually no players and it’s getting a Resurrection. And honestly, if the game went downhill faster, and less people were playing sooner, I bet you classic would have came around even sooner. If anything I would say that retailers hurt it more than anything.
Warcraft 3 is not World of Warcraft.
Why would your logic only apply to one video game?
One genre.
Why does it apply to one genre? What’s your logic behind this?
WoW is a dying breed of P2P MMO’s, and honestly Blizzard and Square (FFXIV) are the only reason it still exists.
And really, WoW is still the best MMO in the world despite it’s horrible financial record, at least to me.
This didn’t answer my question even in the smallest sense.
Yeah well at this point I’m blaming the alcohol.
Well there was someone who posted sometime ago wondering the same thing and I believe a blue posted saying no.
It doesn’t mean they couldn’t put the old transmog in retail as greeen gear like they have been doing like how mop gave old zg items as green and bfa gave some models as green.
If you can’t even give me an answer then your claim that retailers are responsible for classic literally makes no sense.
Not that I really care because I already think it makes no sense I am just letting you know.
Retail WoW still being developed=Classic still possible
Retail servers shut down & studio/devs gone= Classic not possible.
This right here is incorrect though. It’s not like they were like “Hey guys thank god we still have devs working for us lets bring you guys over to classic now that we feel like it”.
The fact that they had to hire most of the devs FOR classic should be a dead giveaway for you. If WoW had been dead for 10 years with no devs and blizzard saw classic as a financial opportunity, they would do the exact same thing they did for warcraft 3 and the exact same thing they did for classic. Hire people to make it.
Like I said, Warcraft 3 is under development right now. Do you think they had a full dev team for warcraft 3 for the last 17 years? No they didn’t.
That series of Warcraft games wasn’t a monumental failure as the MMO is turning out to be, though.
Developers don’t invest millions into an MMO that literally just got shut down, would love to see one that did besides FFXIV.
That’s 100% untrue considering the team working on classic isn’t eh same as retail.
This isn’t entirely accurate. Blizzard could announce today that BfA will be the last WOW expansion and 8.2 the final patch, reassign all but the critical developers, but still decide to go through with their WOW Classic release plans. WOW Classic isn’t anywhere near as co-dependent as you think. Now, sure, if there was some implausible complete sell-off of all Warcraft assets, and cancellation of all data center servers, sure … but that’s on a scale of a company going bankrupt and divesting itself of anything and everything, and not where Blizzard is at right now.
(What is more accurate to state is that Retail wouldn’t exist if it hadn’t been for the subscribers to vanilla. If Blizzard had been unable to sell all their initial boxes, and failed to maintain the then industry standard definition of success 100k active players, there might never have been any expansions. There might not have been a Titan to get turned into Overwatch, and who knows where their other franchises might have wound up with a massive failure instead of success in 2004.)
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Vanilla, TBC, and Wrath were also not the monumental failures that retail wow is turning into… so what’s your point?
That’s because there wasn’t a demand for them, obviously. Whether retail made it this long or not, vanilla WoW still would have been in demand.
I think a lot of you are seeing this from your own perspective of wanting Classic to happen, rather than the business perspective of Classic never being possible if WoW has ended earlier.
I dare Ion to answer the question:
“Would Classic have happened if Retail had shut down when Nost went live?”
Answer would be “No”, guaranteed.
Companies don’t invest in a dead MMO. It just doesn’t happen, and WoW is technically still breathing.