Unintended Bear and Cat Forms (Part 1)

I don’t mind being laughed at. I am not that delicate.

Though if I were given the option? I would prefer to be laughed at by someone who actually understands what I said. I am not certain that you do.

My comment was entirely about new players, or players returning to the game. These are people who may not know that things are on the forums, or have forgotten this.

You keep saying ‘people choosing’, and that is not what I am speaking about. I am not talking about the people who are actively using the forums. I am talking about people who may have been asked to come back or play for the first time. These are people who are playing a game, and have a reasonable expectation that things that impact the game will be addressed at some point in the game.

If you went to buy groceries from the store, I’m sure you would probably like to know ‘Hey, this product does not work/is recalled/is mislabeled’ at the store, right? Or to receive a notification?

I don’t think you would be appreciate it if the store already knew about that, and told you ‘You should just pay attention to the company website’. It’s the same principle.

Oh, I am well aware of what he is doing. It’s the whole ‘ragebait’, or ‘agent provocateur’ kind of thing. “Haha, I want to belittle people I don’t know because I get some kind of satisfaction from that.”

When I respond to people like this, I am rarely doing it for their sake. I know full well going in they are not interested in discourse. But I also know that other people who remain silent may also be curious about this kind of thing.

If someone started in Dragonflight, for example, and they’ve never played a druid? They may not get how extremely limited druids are when it comes to transmogs. They might see the Amirdrassil drops and go “Well, there’s already an option, so what’s the big deal?”

When there is a huge amount of support for a topic (and make no mistake, the vast majority of the replies from the first 800 or so posts I have looked at are very clear that people are supporting making the skins available in some way), it can be daunting to admit or even ask ‘Hey, why is this important?’ or ‘Why should it be this way?’ I’ve seen people - online and in real life - essentially be belittled for not knowing about a topic. That’s not an effective way to have a discourse, nor is it an effective way to actually progress one’s own goals.

People may not know (or may not have linked) that Blizzard is already putting things in that were from limited events, such as the Ahead of the Curve Mount or the Mythic Trial of Valor set.

People may not know that the difficulty of the Mage Tower dropped precipitously with the next patch. They might take a moment and recognize how much easier the Awakening the Machine weekly is in the Ringing Deeps as new patches were released, as an example. That can give them a more nuanced eye when they hear someone say ‘This is supposed to be prestigious’.

This person is not my intended audience. They’re just serving a purpose, even if they don’t know it.

And it helps a bit, y’know? Even if people don’t comment, they tend to read. And they notice things, like me saying ‘I have some free time to respond’ and being answered with ‘haha, you wasted time’.

So, they can kind of draw their own conclusions.

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Awwww is this your first rage bait? It’s so cute…

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that’s all they show, they’re participation trophies for partaking in an expansion. That should be relgated to titles not very finite cosmetics

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“SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLAYING THE GAME BACK THEN!”

Some people who want that form now were probably too young to be playing the game back then.

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Nah I have a level 80 druid I just chose to not show it to weirdos like you. So sorry you wanted to see it.

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“Stop being a dork and wanting other people to have nice things!”

No, I won’t be doing that.

People have had nearly a decade of exclusivity on those forms, more than enough time for normal people to enjoy the cool appearances and for the insecure people that got the forms to lord it over other people who didn’t get the forms.

It’s high time that those forms became available again.

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Cancelled my subscription.

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Kind of telling that there’s a common theme with name-calling and insults from the “you can’t have them hahahaha!” crowd (many of which have very few posts…hmm…)

Don’t fall for the bait. Use your flags and carry on.

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Wonder when these same three or four people screeching that others are getting to enjoy skins realize they didn’t manage to take them away from everyone, and screech with even more intensity.

Time to find new limited time pixels to base your self-worth on, methinks.

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You sound upset. You ok?

Their parents fault. Maybe…do it sooner next time

Yeah. The people that already had them from Legion. LOL

Yet you write entire multi-paragraph replies. Little excessive for someone who’s not “delicate”

Y-yeah, definitely. LMAO

if that is so then grats to the people that kept them. it’s what they would call “happy accident” but they still have to live in fear that some day they are just gone. Though I would like to see proof of that anyway

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also to add to the discussion. I have noticed on druids you logged out in catform with they remove the form to the basic form if you have been logged out for like 3 hours on it. So they giving their best to remove it from people

Well, tried posting a link to some images but Blizzard refuses to let me. >_>

But yeah, no idea about Sparkles though, cause I like my fire cat.

ok well I am sure throughout the day/s more people will throw claims with proof so it’s fine. I believe the side that got them removed as I have an error myself, one I can live with but the other side of actually keeping it without having them done, yet to see.

I’m sure there will be, especially if they don’t particularly care to play Druid like me.

Wish Blizzard would just let me post links though. Lmao

I mean with how messy that fix went… they literally changed the order of some forms so they probably had people do it manually while also doing achievement checks. at this point anything is believable. Just wake me up when they find the 34th cat in fel

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I don’t know if you have some new, edgy definition of delicate because you put it in quotes. I say this because that’s the only way that what you wrote makes sense.

Someone who was delicate wouldn’t be able to exercise excess. That’s…that’s what that word means.

I don’t mind that you’re just trying to be provocative and edgy, but it would help if you had some kind of consistency with…well, anything. Your intent, what words means; any of that, really.

Though back to the point, the lack of consistency is one of the things that has people so vexed about how this situation played out. “We don’t want to re-release this limited time offerings, because they’re prestigious. However, we are going to re-release these other limited time offerings that are also prestigious. We are going to re-release it in a game where it is much, much, MUCH easier to obtain these things.”

“Hey, there is a bug that is letting people use the things they have been asking for for years. There are also several other bugs that impact more people in a more meaningful way, to the point where they can’t play the game [Suramar, Dawnbreaker bugs, etc]. We are going to make it a point to address the cosmetic bug that made people happy, as opposed to the other ones that ruin significant portions of the game.”

“We are going to allow a thread to have nearing 3000 posts to allow people to communicate, but we will not address the outcry.”

It’s not just the individual action. It’s the sum of a lot of things. One of the stated reasons a lot of restrictions were lifted when they made warbands was that they wanted to respect the time of the player. Another one was more or less ‘we started taking a serious look at things we hadn’t allowed, and asked ourselves if we still needed to do that’.

That seems like they’re moving in a more player friendly direction. I got a warlock drop on my evoker last night, completing a set. But then you start getting decisions like this, and it starts looking and feeling like they are halting that player friendly behavior when it comes to this one specific thing that disproportionately impacts one class.

If the Spellwing and Valor sets weren’t coming back, I doubt people would be as passionate about it. They would still want more druid forms (I, too, would like more variety), but you wouldn’t have people voicing actual concern.

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While warbands were cool on paper I started hating on it immediatly…

they merged dragonflight reps so I could not get tabards for rp purposes to actually wear from any faction anymore :dracthyr_lulmao:

How they handle factions is…curious.

I kind of wish there was an option to see your individual character progress on certain things. I have a lot of alts, and I like questing to level. It’s easy to forget ‘Wait, did I finish this zone?’, and if you check the achievements? It just says “Your warband has completed this!”

Which is, like…good? Okay? But I kind of want to know if this character had done it?

That’s admittedly a niche thing because I play weird, but…yeah, it does make it difficult to see individual progress when everything is lumped together.

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