Unholy pros and cons?

I’m thinking of changing mains to unholy I like the fantasy but I’m not sure where they stand in bfa. I played blood in legion and just now leveling one again. I’m worried about survivability in pvp and what they bring to m+ . Both are things I struggled with on feral

If your concerns are survivability in pvp and mythic plus performance unholy will be a very rewarding spec for you to put time into. These are the two specific areas unholy usually excel.

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I love the spec Unholy… but damn the mechanics are some of the least enjoyable in the entire game to me.

Festering pimple popping crap needs to be scrapped and reworked. I just don’t like the playstyle mechanics they did to them in BFA.

I would like to play Unholy, ever time I try and play I just can’t tolerate the rotation and play mechanics. So quit it and go back on my other toons

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Its okay assuming you can keep the deaths trike spam.

Nothing that other classes cant do better and more consistently.

Unholy got the best AoE in the game.

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No, our AOE is not the best, it is rly good but not the best.

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Nothing scales like we do. Unholy can burst 1mill+ in AoE.

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Unholy is the best aoe when you pull around it

Pros: Good survivability, very good AoE damage

Cons: Outdated and clunky combo point mechanic, very slow rotation, damage is mostly passive in single target, very low mobility, very little utility, spell visuals suck

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Pros: No breath of Sindragosa, Pets, Great in pvp.
Cons: Feel like major amount of DPS is passive.

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a lot of the depth to unholy is lining up cds, procs, and other variables to maximize that passive damage, which is a fairly active process.

Thanks for the replies I actually tried frost sand think ima go that route unholy was just too slow

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Unholy is probably the faster of the two specs in their current iteration. The reason I love unholy is the amount of resources you have to manage. Utilizing epidemic at the right times, bursting sores , and using your runes efficiently with the right azerite traits; all of this comes together into what is my favorite M+ and pvp spec. I’ve played rogue, monk, and mage and I can say that I enjoy the unholy DK above all the others.

Well considered a small pull with only 2 or 3 mobs, there is no spec can beat fire mage. But if you’re talking about huge pull with 10+ mobs, unholy is basically second to none.

Also to answer OP’s question, there is a few pros and cons I did take note when pushing M+ with my group:
*Pros/ What they bring to your group:
-Have the best AoE damage in big pull
-Huge burst in boss fight with lust and army
-Situational battle rez
-Very tanky against damage spike
*Cons:
-Dependant on their CDs to quickly deal meaningful damage
-Lack of utility
-Mobility
-Lack of DPS in high tyrannical boss fights
-Poor target switching
-Uncontrollable AoE damage
-Perform poorly in certain weeks (or affixes combination)
Unholy in M+ is a high rewarded spec but also quite punishing if your group and you play it wrong. Having an unholy DK in a key group means that the whole group have to play around you, also require extremely good coordination between all group members in order for you to truly shine.

PVP wise UH is super fun. My gear is trash and I top damage/kills in BGs. I can’t speak for arena in this xpac, but UH in previous xpacs was strong.
PVE wise I hear our AOE is great, but unless you have friends you are playing with, you will be declined a lot for mythic + keys

Unholy is in my opinion the most fun spec in the game pvp and in M+. Super bias’d but I’ve played around on other classes and specs, and unholy just resonates with me the most. I like having a good number of things to manage and it just feels super great to set up big damage and execute it.

The AOE pressure you can provide in BGs and M+ is fun. Being a complete nuisance to healers with your necrotics, spread pressure, pets, grip and chains is also very satisfying. Just a great spec all around imo.

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UH has always been my fav DK spec. I am not a fan of the pimple system. I like the idea of having it, but would want a little more to it. (though I am not sure how they could rework it. ) I love UH in pvp though. Honestly, it is my fav pvp spec of all the classes I have played. (old warrior main for years). UH in RBGS is just so satisfying and with some of the new covenant skills coming in SL, it will be even more fun.

You know what I’d like to see back for unholy? Desecration. Why did we even lose it anyway? I do mythic keys up to +10 these days, so I’m pretty casual, but man, having desecration as the aoe slow it was would be so useful.

They should keep the sore mechanic but make festermight baseline. Such an awesome trait to 3 stack. That’s what really adds more depth to the spec and planning out big damage.