Unholy DK Nerf Clarification

Death Knight

  • Unholy
    • [ With regional restarts ] Mastery: Dreadblade effectiveness reduced by 15%.

I am sitting at 59% mastery atm, from my understanding I will drop to about 50% so I am losing 9% shadow and pet damage? or is it an outright 15% just going away? If its the 1st it would seem that is not a huge nerf, would be about an 300-400 dps loss. That would put us below Boomkin, SP, MM (Surprised that Boomies did not get the nerf bat as well.) or Iam I way off here?

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It’s a nerf to scaling. Expect about a 5% total damage loss.

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Seems alright then, seems like its not going to trash tier then.

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if it means that we are only losing like 8-10% from mastery, its a fair nerf(more than 8-10% is a way to high), because most of unholy dks doesn’t have the bis legendary(Frienzed Monstrosity). we should still performing a good dps overall content when we get 200~210 ilvl.(because mastery and str increases). Its unfair to not see MM nerfs when they are overperforming all classes specially in M+

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FM is BIS for M+ Deadliest Coil is what I am after for BIS Raid but yea if you look on warcraft logs Boomkins are beating MM but w.e when you are top you are the 1st to get the nerf bat

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Im happy with a mastery nerf.

Mainly because it was too powerful, made any non-mastery item a borderline dps downgrade kinda like arms in legion.

the average dps was +/- 500 on sims, which is really good, buffing a few classes by 5ish% while nerfing the top class by ~5% is actually quite acceptable. For one, blizzard did good. I didn’t feel like having to deal with banking items that didn’;t have mastery.

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This is a one weird oxymoron. Imagine being happy with the nerfs.

The wonders of this game of how the developers shape us as players. xD

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It’s easy. It only requires recognizing when something is better for the health of the game as a whole.

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There is still a hypothesis that blizzard is gonna do a few mini nerfs before they are satisfied

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I know.

I just find it weird that players are happy with the nerf.

I mean I guess I’m not saying we’re happy getting them but also we’re happy that they aren’t sledgehammering us.

Give them time. Unholy has a history of starting strong and getting smeared into oblivion until near the end of expansions.

Just buff everyone else is all they need to do, but nope.

They resort to their most famous weapon: Nerf.

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What I found particularly interesting is the lack of nerfs to MM and spriest. A little too convenient that only the highest melee spec took a hit, while the overperforming ranged specs get left completely alone. Granted, they did say they might have more numbers for us by the time the nerf goes live. We’ll have to see if they also tune the other outliers.

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Nah, getting trashed talked by green parsers in pugs saying “pop army and afk, be top dps” and calling me fotm when I mained unholy when it was completely trash tier start of both legion and uldir is pretty annoying.

It’s a position that undermines being respected for actually performing well. Being upper pack is ideal

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It’s a nerf now and a buff later because of the new DR. Once you go above 60% you only get 50% of the stats value in terms of dps. The dr is based on % value not numerical value. Actually a good fix because we won’t be losing damage on mastery in tier 2 which would have happened with the old scaling. Also, this isn’t enough to cripple mastery not anywhere near it.

Really funny how people think Mastry is too strong on a DOT class that doesn’t have DOT’s scaling with haste though. Not to mention our resources scaling minimally from haste. What I’m saying is, look at the entire picture there is a reason Mastery for Unholy is what it is.

So does this nerf mean that unholy and frost almost the same in terms of dps?

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Not even close.

Lol, not even.

Well that sucks, I wanted to go back to frost cuz I enjoy that spec more and I do time to time but if unholy performs better then I guess I should stick with it. Idk I guess I’ll have to do some testing on dumming and some simming for my current gear.

I’m happy we may be more balanced now so that topping the meters and performing well is more on me than just being broken.

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