I think it’s the best it’s ever been so far in terms of design and gameplay, what does everyone else think?
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Feels very smooth, damage seems good, loving the cc options. Having a variety of builds to use is realy fantastic for pvp.
Outside og wrath this would seem to be the best design for unholy.
Do plagues have a 50% duration in PVP? My virulent plague only lasts like 6-7 seconds in BGs. Even with the Ebon Fever duration is it not supposed to be like 13 sec or so?
Are you using plague bringer along with ebon fever? That lone will make it essentially a 7 sec duration in pvp.
And not in PVE? In PVE Plaguebringer seems to accelerate how fast the disease damage is done, without causing it to run out faster. Does it work differently in PVP?
it should be the same in pvp or pve. One difference though, is if you apply it with UH blight, UH blight adds in pandemic timing since it reapplies the dot.
Better than Shadowlands, but worse than what I can remember of MoP, Cata, WoD and probably Wrath too from what I’ve seen and remember from real Wrath. My wrath DK isn’t 80 yet so we’ll see soon.
The build I’m playing is fun, but I’m not sure how great it actually is and it won’t be possible in Dragonflight.
Yes, Virulent Plague has a shorter duration in PvP since BFA.
Killing people in 8 seconds has never been better not to mention the outstanding healing
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Loving the way it plays. Taking superstrain plaguebringer Gargoyle and adding festermight+ assault at 70 is exactly how I want the spec to play
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That builds garbage
unironically what i was looking at doing for my dk
Fight me
I don’t remember asking bud
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It’s looking amazing but I’m definitely looking forward to the pvp talent 10.1 refresh, most of our pvp talents are either stale or worthless. Definitely miss the necrotic strike playstyle. That being said it’s the best iteration of unholy for pvp in the last decade, if only they would un-nerf VP duration in pvp like was mentioned in this thread. They’re really onto something special with this disease build but god damn if it isn’t burdensome.
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The 5 sec duration on plaguebringer is stressing me out with how good coil is and how high rp gen is tho 
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At least we don’t have to maintain PB on multiple targets lol. I’m loving the ‘new’ unholy.
Def need the VP duration un nerfed though.
The hell? The system just removed me quoting you for some reason.
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So far it has been quite fun. I top the charts in damage and healing in BGs regularly. Mind you I prefer not to, as it is usually indicative of either underperforming teammates or situations tailored to mass groups of enemies getting hit with diseases.
Still, being able to solo Demon Hunters who think I’m easy prey is fantastic. Havoc types get spooked at a certain point and end up running for help, Vengeance… That’s a bit tougher.
It automatically removes quotes if you quote the whole post before yours. It’s dumb and I hate it.
that is stupid.
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I’m just getting back on my unholy DK since BfA and I have a few questions. Obviously “meta” builds for PvP will change but looking at some of the top RBG ladder players, I tried to run their spec.
It seems like unholy has more abilities (that are necessary/useful) than a rogue at this point. Feels bloated. Even in BfA I remember bursting required me to press 5 major offensive cds before starting rotation, kind of clunky.
I have about 30 abilities macro’d and it’s overwhelming, but maybe I don’t need to use them all? Like is death and decay use necessary b/c of the scourge strike talent in rbgs or will it continue to be a way to knock stealthies?
Seems like rotation will roughly be: unholy blight (or virulent) > festering strike to max stacks > empower rune weapon > summon Garg > annihilation > dark transformation > D&D > deathcoil for SS buff > SS> deathcoil
Then leap and gnaw macros for healer, lichborne, fortitude and sac pact for defensives along with ams, amz for magical defensives. Oh and chains, advance, wraith, mind freeze and asphyxiate obviously all necessary constant use.
maybe unholy dk isn’t for you. the complaints you list aren’t problems for unholy mains, in fact many of them are why we like this class and spec in particular. not to downplay your complaints, but if you don’t like ham, don’t order a ham sandwich.
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dk in general is gonna be insane in pvp, unholy looking like a potential meta defining spec rn