Unholy and Frost weapon switch

Classes Death Knight
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Personally, I’ve felt for a long time that Unholy DKs depend on magic and pets more than melee; because of this, two 1h weapons would serve better as dual wielding is more innately defensive. Baron Rivendare, the unholy horse guy, etc carry relatively small runeblades.

Frost are brutal melee opponents, with abilities such as Annihilation. Arthas had Frostmourne. When someone gets crit with Annihilation you innately think of hetting smashed with a huge weapon, not getting hit with two 1h weps.

Unholy would actually benefit from having dual wield because they could combine Fallen Crusader with Stoneskin Gargoyle.
Also, moves like Scourge Strike - whichs deals physical and shadow damage - could be really cool with dual wielding: one sword is normal, one turns dark with shadow energy.

Sorry for ranting, hope I’ve made a little sense.

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Just remove dual wielding from DKs. Problem solved.

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Yea. Imo they just need to make frost 2h again.

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We can wield duels now?.

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pet battles.

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The worst part is that the unholy artifact weapon looks more like frostmourne than the blades made from frostmourne.

2h definitely suites frost better, in terms of the slow moving, big hits theme. If only those obliterates hit harder haha.

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How dare you suggest unholy dual wield? :wink: DW is an aberration for DK

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Dual wield would be better for blood. When I imagine blood, I think of the butchers that cut up the corpses to make the abominations and monsters of Naxx. In gangs of new York, Bill the Butcher carried his cleaver and steak carving knife into battle.

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I agree with this 100%. Unholy is the damage over time spec along with that they used to be the fast attacking spec too with unholy pres etc. i think their damage being more small hits would make more sense and a frost dk being the slow juggernaut blizz wants them to be would make more sense with huge obliterate hits again with a 2h.

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Your argument is invalid because Arthas was an Unholy Death Knight with a splash of Frost.

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Personally I wish they would just do away with DW with DK’s all together. I never understood who at Blizzard is so dead set on forcing people to play a dark knight class with duel wield weapons… Whoever it is, seems kind of stubborn about it. I’ve always believed that all DK Specs should be 2H weapons… But out of all the specs available to DK’s, yes Unholy would be the best fit in my opinion. But after how Unholy DW played out back in WotLK, it was so OP that I doubt they will ever let us do that again… But one could hope!

I like your idea, and I support it! :slight_smile:

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we should just do away with DW all together, there are plenty of DW classes in the game already, and it makes switching specs as a DK a pain. you can’t just switch between frost and unholy, you need weapons for it. this was fine in legion when we had weapons by default, however with artifacts gone if you want to switch to frost you may end up having to put your badass BiS 2Her in the bank and rolling with some crafted crap that is 30+ ilvls lower, souring the experience.

all 3 specs should be 2h only at this point.

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That is why you collect a 2H weapon as you go along. I personally keep a 2H weapon in my bag for when I want to play Blood.

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No UH does not need to switch to dual wield and thankfully the idea is silly enough that the devs won’t do it.

Best hope for Frost 2 handed is for the devs to just do some work on allowing more options for transmog, which does look like they are interested in doing with the new options we’ve gotten so far.

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Nope. I like 2h unholy.

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Back when DK’s were fresh faced wrath champions, UH was the one who would typically dual wield and frost was mostly played with a 2H for these very reasons.

Why blizz deviated so far from this concept is beyond me.

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UH was only dw for the 32/39 hybrid spec which lasted all of half a patch. once 3.1 came out all 3 specs were effectively 2H until 3.2 in which threat of thassarian was added. however because it underperformed most dks stayed with 2H. by 3.3 DW frost could compete if played perfectly however it wasn’t until 3.3.3 when DW got a 30% buff in damage that most dks could play it on par with 2H.

IMO 3.1 was the peak of 2h frost, especially when you had the sigil from 25man XT-002 to boost frost strike’s damage. in pvp the spec in unholy presence would cut down any player, especially tanks. at the time frost strike could not be dodged or parried and wasn’t impacted by armor.

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Trying to switch the weapons now is a bit ridiculous. Frost was literally built to dual-wield since day one, and it’s had a clear design direction on fast attacks from then until now; a slower two-handed weapon fits the more methodical damage of Unholy. Not to mention that Blizzard has outright broken dual-wield for Unholy on multiple occasions, and Legion firmly settled the DW/2H debate for Frost. This decisions has already been clearly made, and thought out.

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No, unholy was not typically dual wield in WotLK. The best unholy build was 2-handed, and there was a frost/unholy hybrid that was dual wield for a portion of the expansion, as someone already mentioned.
2-handed frost hasn’t been better than DW frost for most of it’s existence.