Unfortunately, I don't think Ulduar is enough to save wrath classic

[Slimydaniels-sulfuras]

@Meriweather-thunderlord

I mean…do what I do and play both. I have days of the week set aside for my Classic people and days for my Dragonflight people. Today is Naxx25 day.

Because you act like a mature, reasonable adult.

[Bodicca-maladath]

@Myrtardradys-aegwynn

Plenty of WPvP with Warmode on retail.

Oh WARMODE!

[Aurumai-grobbulus]

@Christopher-grobbulus

I’m in two sweaty guilds here on wrath classic and both guilds are completely dead due to Dragonflight.

Congratulations, you exclusively play with Retail tourists.

@Christopher-grobbulus

I took a look at my usual streamers and what everyone else is up to and 99% of my friends/streamers are on DF.

It’s literally their job to garner as much attention as possible, and playing a new game is easily the best way to do that. Also, why do you care what streamers are doing?

@Christopher-grobbulus

I think people will come back for Ulduar

We are right at the very peak of Classic’s population since it launched. People don’t need to “come back”, because WoW has gained players, not lost them.

[Elemenopee-jom-gabbar]

Not sure what the big deal is. A surge of people are playing DF as it just released a few days ago. The games can co-exist.

Wotlk doesn’t need to be saved. There are more than enough people actively doing wotlk content to find a group for pretty much anything.

I’m looking forward to ulduar, hopefully they actually beta test and address the bugs before releasing it.

[Meriweather-thunderlord]

@Elemenopee-jom-gabbar

Wotlk doesn’t need to be saved. There are more than enough people actively doing wotlk content to find a group for pretty much anything.

Word. Windseeker is very active, and you can pug anything you need to. There are awesome raiding guilds there, and my own guild is very healthy with multiple raid teams and people who help each other out all the time.

OP is trolling. 100%.

[Drain-windseeker]

I don’t know why people think it needs to be “saved.” Shadowlands didn’t kill us before and dragonblight won’t do it now.

[Mylo-nathrezim]

Cool. More opportunities

[Littlerascal-area-52]

@Aurumai-grobbulus

you exclusively play with Retail tourists

Tell me you are not here to have an actual adult discussion without telling me you are not here to have an adult discussion…

[Slimydaniels-sulfuras]

Oh look its littleradical, the goblin troll and rdf extremist. Hello!

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

DF is fun, but its new

I mean SL was great the first couple weeks too. Then yeah, we know how that went. Same thing with BFA.

DF might be great, might be super boring. We dont really know yet.

WOTLK will be fine.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Bodicca-maladath

@Myrtardradys-aegwynn

Weird to think that cross-realm gameplay makes a game suck.

For instanced content it’s fine. For out in the world it totally sucks. It killed WPvP on my server way back when.

World PvP doesn’t really exist much in Wrath classic because the PvP servers all are exceedingly lopsided to one faction.

[Slimydaniels-sulfuras]

@Argorwal-ysera

World PvP doesn’t really exist much in Wrath classic because the PvP servers all are exceedingly lopsided to one faction.

Not sure if its server balance. Demographics have shifted. People just aren’t as high strong for pvp as they use too. I see alliance pass me by all the time and i pass them by too. Rarely do i see people engage in wpvp.

[Tinkerfel-grobbulus]

Grobb says hi

We wuz pvping all night at Nexus double daily

[Gosakii-aegwynn]

Is this your first time seeing an expansion release?

[Soarer-bloodsail-buccaneers]

what is this redditoid phrase everyone keeps spamming?

[Aurumai-grobbulus]

@Littlerascal-area-52

@Aurumai-grobbulus

you exclusively play with Retail tourists

Tell me you are not here to have an actual adult discussion without telling me you are not here to have an adult discussion…

I’m sorry, but there’s something to be said of this person being the common denominator if, in their experience, the entire world is falling apart as a result of Dragonflight’s launch.

We have plenty of reliable data to pull from, and to my knowledge, there is absolutely no indication of the player population dwindling, aside from the predictable slight dropoff the game experiences literally every single time the most current content is on farm. In fact, we’re at the very peak of Classic’s population since the day it launched, so you’ll have to forgive me if I’m skeptical and annoyed by yet another doom sayer implying that some of the best content in the game can’t “save” Classic, or that Classic needs “saving” at all, just because he exclusively plays with flavor of the month tourists who jump ship the moment our favorite corporation dangles a new product in front of them.

[Opx-mankrik]

@Christopher-grobbulus

Also, my guildies have been complaining about having to buy gold in prep for the new raids,

Kinda lazy. You can easily farm 600-800g per day just doing the daily cap. That takes about 1-2 hours. it’s very easy to farm gold in cata classic

[Littlerascal-area-52]

Look, it’s very simple. You intentionally are using a derogatory phrase to try and insult other people. You know darn well that calling someone a “Retail Tourist” is meant to be an insult, and anyone who opens their post with an insult is not here to have an adult conversation.

@Slimydaniels-sulfuras

Oh look its littleradical

I would expect nothing less from you than to support anyone using the “Retail Tourist” slight to describe other people. You are a troll and are only here to poke the bear and see how many new arguments you can start.

[Maxium-grobbulus]

@Christopher-grobbulus

I think people will come back for Ulduar, raid it for the 6-9 hours a week, and instantly log off back to DF.

So what? What’s wrong with that?

My guild currently runs two raids each week and both raids have Immortal. We also raid log and play other games together like Among Us, Valheim and Darktide.

You don’t have to be online all day everyday. We are approaching the end of a raid phase. Of course everyone is raid logging.

[Radalpho-proudmoore (Radalpho)]

I’ve played DF and there is nothing compelling about DF other than the dragon flying itself, the music, sound effects and visualizations. The story line is rather silly.

Here is my summary of DF so far:

1. The flying is kind of nice how it was handled. Good job.
2. All of the NPC’s talk way too much. They are annoying as all get out (most of them)> Less talking and more quest giving.
3. The NPC’s are slooooooooooooooooooooow and inconsistent in how they handle quests in as turn in’s, giving you items or talking to them.
4. What is up w/all of these dorky talk to him, run to him, click this dead rabbit, skin it, bring it to a boil, dump it on the ground…talk to 12 more people, click 10 more items and then 15 mins later, jump 6 times, now turn it in.
5. Pretty small area to have taken so long to create this xpac to be honest (esp. with reused dungeons)
6. What happened to shammy totems - that is crazy sad they are basically all gone – A shammy w/some ghetto totem now - just wow.
7. The voice actors for the NPC’s are terrible. The voices on quite a bit of the NPCs are very screechy and annoying. Seems like the voice actors are or were and after thought.
8. No real new “ideas” in quests.
9. Music is good
10. Reused old dungeons - how sad.
11. No one speaks to each other in groups.
12. Trainers gutted
13. You don’t even have to worry about learning new abilities - they are now automatic - how lazy…errr…I mean, yea how lazy.
14. It is pretty dumbed down expac to be honest.
15. Watered down characters
16. Pruned abilities so that even the most noobie person can play.
17. It rains money and gold
18. Leveling is quite frankly a joke.

There – DF in a summary.