From a PvP perspective, you made Elemental Shaman terrible. Idk why you did it but this is not it. I’ll take Dragonflight version over this even if it was kept the same for the next 3 expansions. It’s soo bad. I’m not playing This version of Elemental. I know I haven’t Elaborated but I don’t think I need to. There aren’t like 3-4 things wrong with it. It’s everything. I can’t get a cast off which is required to do damage now. I’m playing fire mage.
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could you elaborate?
are you talking about testing these changes on the beta? You say you can’t get a cast off but the haste levels on the beta are very weird and doesn’t seem like it’s going to be what the live version will be. There’s even haste talents built into the spec, like the one under ascendance that gives 25% haste, the one under Primordial Wave which gives 20% haste per target hit by Lava burst, and then there’s storm frenzy reducing cast time of Lightning Bolt and Chain lightning by 40% stacking to 2 times.
are you using a nature build with Farseer instead of Fire, or a fire build with stormbringer instead of nature?
is it that the Beta is just incredibly laggy and freezes and disconnects all the time?
They did slow down the maelstrom generation and made Earth Shock and Ele blast more expensive, so maybe that? I’ll agree that doesn’t feel great, but overall the shaman changes have been received decently well with most complaints being about things like Flame Shock spread, talents not working as intended, and not having as many procs as before.
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I mean, it feels like ele does at the beginning of every expansion in terms of procs due to haste values.
If youre running flame build with farseer, Priority switched from smashing lavaburst to windows. Ive pumped some wild damage in pvp with ice fury > frost shock > prim wave > lavaburst > earth shock > lavaburst which pops off 2x 60% EBs and farseer spirits doing what they do.
In arena with the defensives it feels less squishy as well. Same old song and dance, just less lavaburst procs
The new ele is better. They haven’t even done tuning yet. DF ele is horrible
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The new ele is better only because you now have the option to do other builds, instead of just spamming Lava Burst and Earthquake since Season 3 and 4. It’s nice that ele is unique in that sense where we can have different playstyles like having a Fire build for single target and AoE, or a nature build for single target and AoE.
DF ele is not horrible, and there are plenty of people who agree because otherwise we would not have kept the season 3 tier set into season 4. Personally, I really like the Lava Burst + Earthquake spam because it does consistent damage throughout a M+ encounter or council-style boss fights. I like using Lava burst to empower my other abilities and have them hit harder. If you don’t like this spam, you probably wouldn’t like something like Destro warlock where they can literally just spam Rain of Fire and only rain of fire in an AoE pack. That is poor design, but it’s strong DPS.
I don’t PvP so maybe ele is worse in PvP content?
Destro lock is incredible and light years ahead of ele design wise. It got a lot of polish during TWW alpha and beta so the gap is even further than it was.
Rain of fire is a spender, and an aoe ability so you want it to hit hard and do most of your aoe damage. The aoe loop of destro is smooth, fast paced, and visually really cool. Lava burst being the majority of your damage in single target AND aoe makes the button boring to me. I miss when lava burst hit like a truck but wasn’t spammed. So I like the changes on the beta and hope the spec gets polished up before launch although there isn’t much time left.
I have a feeling s3 set bonus got voted in strictly due to performance, not fun factor. People care about numbers more than anything. And to be honest the other set bonuses were pretty boring too.
so you don’t like spamming lava burst, but you have no problem with Destro where you could do 1million + DPS with ONLY Rain of Fire?
Yes Rain of Fire is a spender, but with big enough pulls you don’t need to hit any other button besides Rain of Fire. For example, pulling the trash near the tree boss in Algethar Academy, you just need to wait for them to be grouped, hit your Infernal, and then ONLY spam rain of fire because you are generating so many shards that you don’t have the globals to hit anything else. You say that you don’t like spamming Lava burst, but at least you also have to throw in Earthquakes and Chain Lightning if you don’t have a lava surge proc or maelstrom. Even if your infernal is on CD, you could still get away with not needing to put Immolates out and just Rain of Fire spam with large enough pulls.