Goblin patch gave me my hope back the future of WOW story might get better soon.
Where exactly did Xalâatath say that Beledar was the primary focus of her efforts w/r/t to Earthen or the Nerbians?
And everything else you typed here is just your opinions with âobjectivelyâ placed in front of them. Anyone can do that, it doesnât make them true.
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She doesnât. At all. She literally tells Alleria her goal was to have us empower the Black Blood for her. Which is what we ended up unknowingly doing.
Some people just donât pay attention and than make up scenarios that never took place
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Indeed she had us empower the Black Blood and proceeded to send it into the Priory of the Sacred Flame directly into the Dark Heart.
That tells us the Black Blood is surrounding Hallowfall and that the Priory of the Sacred Flame is right in the middle of all that.
Since Xalâatath needs power and the Dark Heart left broken was taken she is going to absorb the Black Blood directly in order to complete the Awakening I suspect and pay the Priory another visit to ingest all the Black Blood(Patch 11.1.5âs notes mention her Nerubians making one final attack on Hallowfall so that may be to get as much Black Blood into her as possible).
âThe fall of night reveals her true face. She will bring only ruin.â
Xalâatath once she consumes all that Black Blood will reveal her true face at the fall of Night.
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Iâm noticing a lot on these forums that people do not pay attention at all to the lore, the theme or the general feel of warcraft.
We got OP making up scenarios and getting frustrated that it isnât aligning with his mind, because the actual story isnât what he thought.
We got others claiming that goblins feel so detached from warcraft and how it is for the modern audience (yes, GD got real mad about it before the thread was purged), not realising that this has been the goblin theme for over 10 years now and nothing about the undermine or the story is modernâŚwell I mean it can be but the story is basically godfather 3.
A lot of people just see wow as high fantasy tolkien stuff it seems while ignoring everything else about warcraft that makes it warcraft.
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Nothing in my original post for the topic ever said that Amirdrassil was side plot⌠I literally said that the fire dragon was side plot, the emerald dream was main plotâŚme listing out âemerald dream, lifelands, missing Freya, missing Tyr, Alexstrasza herselfâ includes Amirdrassil. You are exhibiting either a lack of reading comprehension, or disingenuousness because itâs my name on the label.
I donât see any of what you typed as rude⌠but, with apologies, I donât think you understood what my original topic was describing. But to save time⌠the repeating pattern I see in your quoting me and supposedly disagreeing is that youâre listing out statements about the first quest in the side plot leads to other quests in the side plot. That isnât convincing me that the side plot is the main plot. Are you confused by thinking I mean âside questâ âŚwhen in reality I was talking about âside plotâ âŚ?
Fyrakk, the main antagonist of the Amirdrassil storyline is a side plot? Do you consider every main antagonist of a plot a side story?
Iâm still waiting on the evidence of your whack-job Shadowlands theory. So I guess the only one being disingenuous here is you.
I always find people like this extremely funny. Warcraft has not been âhigh fantasy tolkien stuffâ since WC1.
WC2 has literal coal powered, armor plated ships. Aka the Ogre Juggernaut. It also has submarines, airplanes (flying machines) and goblin zeppelins. Last time I checked, The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings did not have airplanes, let alone submarines.
WC3 would later expand this with armored tanks (Steam tank / siege engines), helicopters (Gyrocopters / flying machines), goblin shredders etc.
We even see that draining Beledar of its void corruption and putting it into the Dark Heart was her goal. Not the anomaly itself.
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Imagine how quickly the plot to get the One Ring to Mordor would have been resolved if they did!!
More for serious though, I imagine most people got exposed to Warcraft through WoW (12 million subs at its peak, so very likely). Where⌠One of the leveling dungeons happens to be Gnomeregon. The Engineering profession has guns and bombs. Gnomes ride robo-birds. Stormwind and Ironforge have a train. Orgrimmar has airships. Westfalls has harvest bots. Searing Gorge has massive cranes. And this is just in Vanilla. By TBC, we had blue aliens crashing totally-not-a-spaceship on to an island, mana forges, Fel Reavers, robot bosses and more.
I do not understand how anyone confuses Warcraft with high fantasy alone, when it has steampunk and scifi and more thrown in from its earliest days.
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Aye, Iâm 34 right now, I got into wow when I was a teen. Why did I get into warcraft in the first place, the RTS games? Because it had aspects of technology in it and it wasnât just The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe that I was shown as a child. LoTR later on.
It was truly unique to me in a way that final fantasy was when I played ff7 as a child. magic and tech based into one fantasy but in warcraft, it kept the fantasy element strong with technology while ff7 was more tech with aspects of magic here and there.
People missing out on this about warcraft really missed on what made warcraft special compared to everquest or Ultima Online at the time.
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Exactly, people either ignore a huge aspect of warcraft to fit their own personal views or get really mad that the game even has it in the first place, which is weird, because it was there since almost the beginning. Why get mad about an aspect of the game that was there before wow was made and claim it âdoesnât feel like warcraftâ.
People who say that really show they only consumed a very narrow aspect of warcraft.
Me, I played ever race and immersed myself into every single culture they could show. The most ârealisticâ races in the games really are the gnomes and goblins, mostly because they were specially made to satire real life humanity. The other races picks a aspect of humanity and just sticks with it but gnomes and goblins are just modern day humans.
Well Saruman had industry too.
I get why people who didnât grow up with it think FF7 is overrated (same with FF6) but holy hell was that game amazing back in the 90s.
There were other rpgs that had tech themes, but they were generally the more sterile white corridors and robot kind, not the gritty dieselpunk design of 7.
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FF6 best JRPG of all time. Fight me.
Chrono Trigger close 2nd.
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Man, I miss the golden age of JRPGs.
Thereâs still some very good ones coming out (I love Metaphor), but so many franchises are shifting to action, and honestly, JRPGs are my chill/relax genre, so Iâd rather do traditional style games.
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You know what, I WILL fight you because Chrono Trigger is the best JRPG of the entire history of the universe, and shall remain so for all time!!!
Kagehiro!!
I challenge!!!
Makâgora!!!
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Undermine is way more tied to the plot than I expected it to be. With the reveal of Beledar as just a large azerite-like formation; one of several known, itâs odd that you think thatâs where the plot is.
The plot is The Black Blood, The Dark Heart and Xalâatathâs plans for them and Undermine was knee deep in it. Which is like neck deep for a goblin, so thatâs pretty good.
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LOKE TURR OGURR, FUR THE HOYDE!
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Magus is cooler than Sephiroth, though. But Kefka⌠thereâs just something about Kefka.
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The literal ending of the initial quest campaign that led through Earthen and then Nerubians to her at Beledar with the Alleria and Khadgar cinematic⌠like, are we even playing the same game?
Demonstrating that you didnât read any of my original topic.
Nothing about the fire dragon was main plot. Amirdrassil was main plot. If the little fire dragon had remained in a yellow circle prison; Amirdrassil was already something that should be main plot. Yet it was treated as side plot. âIâ am the one that said in my original post for the topic that Amirdrassil should be main plot. So you saying you think I missed something because Amirdrassil was going to be a major plot isnât changing or altering what I said⌠youâre proving that Amirdrassil got bumped back to side plot when they actually should have focused upon it. Not the little fire dragon.
So youâre proving that you do nothing butâŚ
Considering I literally said in my starting topic post that I thought every concept from this side plot of Undermine would have been more relevant and more perfect in BFA⌠youâre most assuredly not talking about me. Nor being honest about my topic.
The fact that the lore does âNOTâ support your claim⌠and that in fact Archaedas was misinformed about Beledar is precisely why I made this topic. The lore is telling us that Archaedas was wrong and Beledar is very clearly connected to the Light is why it should be the main plot. What cosmic force in the lore is opposed to the Void which Xalâatath pursues in every single stepâŚ? Oh, the Light. Like that giant glowing Light crystal which the Light teleported the entire Arathi expedition to focus all their time onâŚ? But you think thatâs side plot never worth noticing or visiting after day 2 of the expansionâŚ? Seriously?