Complaints about the car are valid…it’s not done very well for the size of the zone. However aside from that everything is pretty damn cool. The atmosphere is truly like a separate little city. The artwork is beautiful and the whole city feels alive. The whole mobster thing is a joyful change of pace. New mobs look incredible. The dungeon is well made and the bosses have some interesting abilities. The delves are really good too and not anywhere near as boring as the previous ones. The saxophone jazz style music is absolutely perfect for the atmosphere. All the mech stuff is incredible and a ton of fun to see in the game. Looking forward to collecting all the mogs and there’s a few mounts available that may just be the coolest looking mounts theyve ever made. Can’t wait for the raid and mythics to open up. This season is looking like it could be the best in quite awhile. Well done devs…all steps on a good direction here.
Yeah I love it Music the vibe it been long since we have some thing like this
Also, it reminds me of Neo Stormwind vid how thing look go beyond crazy
and with soundtrack of it, it feel like Wow Steampunk adventure.
edit for bonus play this:
*https://youtu.be/guGHaGMszc4 as you walk around Undermine, the chills of finaly a city feel live in.
everything? lol. please be specific because, no, not everything else is “pretty damn cool”.
The daily and world quests are uninspired slop that could be copy pasted from any other part of wow and you wouldn’t know the difference.
not really, Fire rockets, I got to bomb golf, Diging for scrap is fine, And going around zooming for jobs in surge is great.
Maybe it best to stay in that classic there.
I guess we can agree to disagree. World quests are world quests. I’m not sure how they could have been made better. Theyve always been side things to do quickly. I’m enjoying them because of the atmosphere and new mobs. I think it’s done well…it’s a tiny area. It’s fun to look at at a good change of pace where we aren’t flying for 4 minutes to click on something for 10 seconds and be done. It’s just fun…shrugs.
If they make Jump seperate from drift on the dumb car, the car suddenly improves 10 fold.
yes, that I wish there way to lock on to drift then it has jumped, their time I send flying. @w@;;; when I try to race.
If your entire argument hinges on you being allowed to call slop good, and being allowed to enjoy slop then yes, you are right, you are allowed to enjoy slop.
But that doesn’t change the fact that other people are also allowed to call it slop.
I find most people on the forums just exist here to complain. It’s probably the most toxic group of people in any videogame ever. The hate posts are inevitable.
The direction of something completely different is a good idea. Yes there’s a lot of garbage, its a goblin underground city. They kinda nailed the theme. The mecha stuff is beautiful. The feeling of being in a dirty mob run cartel filled city is great. It’s such a small side part of the game it doesn’t really even have to matter if you don’t like it. That’s exactly what we need. Places to go do things quickly that you don’t actually have to do it you don’t like it.
The music fits, the questing is cohesive and makes sense for the zone, the new mobs are fun…the voice acting makes me feel like I’m sitting at a card table in Atlantic city…they even did the shore like I was outside of jersey. It’s all pretty good. No reason to hate aside from the car stuff. Honestly I just think they hit it out of the park.
Ok, Dose mean we should hate every thing and join bang wagon to be another voice in echo of hate, when it ok like things
It ok not bad to like things, Maybe you learn to smile every day 
Undermine had the potential to be awesome… right now it isn’t. That might change when season 2 actually starts but holy crap is it boring right now. I don’t want to keep doing the same 3 things over and over and after you do the quests that is all that is left… do the shipping and handling stuff, pick garbage, or kill rares. Again, as of right now the zone is a snoozer. It might get better when season 2 actually unlocks.
Oh and I timed it, from top to bottom on a normal speed mount it take 1:31 seconds to get across. On the DRIVE it takes less than 45 seconds. The zone is less than 1000mx1000m. It is smaller than Siren Isles as a reference. Sure… it is cool, right now, but this is what you have to look forward to for 3 month or more depending on what 11.1.7 brings.
I wish the zone had less of the grimy, dirty industrial theme and more of the Vegas theme.
So to you what makes something a valid criticism vs “a complaint filled with hatred”? When you agree with it or when you don’t?
Again, there are plenty of other reasons for valid criticism.
Whether or not you agree with that criticism is up to you, but that doesn’t change the fact that people are allowed to do so.
And no, its not “hate”.
Also pretty funny you just dismiss one of the key cornerstones of the patch as something that isn’t worth mentioning when people are criticizing the patch.
The valid question. I always wonder what differentiates hate from a valid criticism as well. To me, saying a zone is small and seems to only have a lot of repeated stuff to do seems valid. I don’t hate the zone, I wish it was bigger with less repetition. They should have launched season 2 with the patch as well, giving people more to do so they don’t rush through all the zone content.
Still, it just fine I sure they patch thing out, no need be hating.
When does that ever happen? You can probably get from Dornogal to the back end of Azj Kahet in two minutes tops without using the portal.
Define hating.
I’m not good at explaining but By hate well I can point at some gulity:
What happened to the story telling? - Community / General Discussion - World of Warcraft Forums
You can’t just call a difference of opinion as being “hate.”
It’s kind of been the hot thing to do the last 8-9 years though. A difference of opinion has been the equivalent of “erasing someone’s existence” for at least that long.