I don’t see the secrecy itself as a problem either especially because of how intrusive datamining is nowadays and how it ruins any element of surprise, however, there is something to be said about how that event was misrepresented as a Retail WoW patch when it was nothing of the sort and keeping it under wraps only contributed to the confusion and frustration.
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It can be an issue when your guild empties to go to another game mode and those left get disillusioned and just log off, because the busy guild went from bustling to quiet.
Yes, I agree. They need to use a similar system to Old Republic. You’re put into a shard and you stay there. Once one fills up, another opens up. If group members are in a different shard, they’re asked if they want to swap to the leader’s shard. Swapping shards is limited to once every half hour, I think. If a shard depopulates and another goes down to only a few, the one with only a few is locked so that no one can join it and only opens back up if the first shard repopulates.
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But why did it cause confusion and frustration in the first place? It’s a WoW patch, not the White House keeping secrets.
Let me see if I can find my earlier explanation… there we go! 
I think comments like this are funny. It’s okay for others to enjoy content as it is, rehashed or otherwise.
I understand wanting new content, we all do, and new content is coming but in the meanwhile this is what we get. And that is fine. No need to be a sensationalist about everything though.
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Plunderstorm? No it wasn’t. It was a completely separate throwaway game mode that just happened to use WoW assets. It had nothing to do with Retail WoW aside from requiring an active subscription to access, of course.
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That really doesn’t address what I said though. You are just talking about personal experiences.
If people don’t like retail, they’re going to quit and the player base is split anyways.
They’re just being a spoiled nonsensical child, best to ignore.
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THe limitted time event doesn’t bother me.
The at level 70 the characters transfer to retail does .
If I’m gonna redo Panda land I want to do it with a Panda Land spec . If I get to relive it I want to relive playing it as a Ranged Survival hunter .
Oh and anyone that says R Surv is the exact same thing as MM .
That is like Saying Frost Mages and Fire Mages are the same so you don’t need 3 casters or Demo and Aff Locks are the same or any 2 rogue specs are exactly the same.
Not getting it back in retail at least give those that for years have been asking for form of rsurv to come a way to have that in something like this.
I will never buy into this. We’re in a WoW zone using WoW assets. We have to literally log into WoW to get to Plunderstorm.
Plunderstorm =/= Hearthstone or Overwatch. It’s just another WoW server.
Anyways, that doesn’t address what I said either. Why would a patch cause confusion and frustration? Sounds like people are sticking their finger down their throat.
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I’m talking about what different game modes can do to retail and why people are concerned about a second game mode that can split up the playerbase. Which… was the conversation I was having with the person you quoted.
there is a big difference between 4 people being able to carry one person and 19 people being able to carry one. Those challenge modes were easier than mythic raiding.
On the whole I agree and said as much in my original post but bro called my post “low IQ” so all gloves are off. 
My main problem isn’t that they keep releasing these rehashed events or even that they’re FOMO (although that’s never good) but that they’re doing it in lieu of actual new content while billing it as new which it isn’t. I guess it’s fine if people like it, more power to them, but I don’t hence why I am speaking out.
Sounds good but bummer you have to delete your main character in order to create a MoP remix one.
Why is this separate from Retail and not part of “Chromie Time”?
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Right, and I get that, but my response to the person you were talking to is that I agreed with them because retail is going to be split anyways if people don’t want to play it.
Saying that it’s because of Plunderstorm or Pandamonium is just a cop out. If retail is what people wanted, none of these modes would pull them away or they would be splitting their time between retail and whatever.
You do realize it was only done this way to get people to subscribe, right? It could have just as easily been accessible for free via the Battle.net app if they wanted to make it that way.
You can’t even use your existing characters to play in this mode, it had nothing to do with the main game. No more than unsanctioned private servers do. I guess we just fundamentally disagree on this.
they should revamp chromie for stuff like this. that’ll keep every expansion relevant with new stuff as well
How is it a cop out when I explained circumstances that have nothing to do with people quitting retail?
So many people have voiced their displeasure over Plunderstorm and play it anyway because limited time rewards for retail.
So I’m not following your line of thinking at all.
No, it was done as an easy way to use the existing assets and server structure.
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More options/modes included in the WoW subscription is always a good thing.