Lore wise, not really. Sir Zeliek is an Undead Paladin example since vanilla.
There have been a few others over the years.
The Light does not actually seem to care what you are, so long as you have faith.
I have long said that the Forsaken and Human should have the same class availability, since same minds.
They made Pandaren DKs, one of the most ridiculous things in the game. They are letting Void Elves essentially change to High Elves. Tauren Paladins have been a thing for years, a combo that still confuses me. There’s a friggin’ light-infused NATHREZIM for crying out loud.
Of all the ridiculous stuff they put in this game and are letting players choose, some of you are still up in arms at the thought of an Undead being a Paladin. Blizzard ditched standard fantasy conventions a looooooooooong time ago.
Blizz said Undead priests can only go holy because no class is spec locked and shadow priest made sense for undead and since its an all or nothing deal that go holy for free.
It blurs the line of what being attuned to the “light” means. What prevents Undead who were unjustly raised agaisnt their own will from searching for higher power and learning the ways of the light? You don’t have to be a Human Male to do that.
Stop bringing up this stupid topic every other day its getting old.
DK’s are already undead paladins, period.
I understand that’s the argument you’re making.
But human paladins are the only race you’ve actually proved this to be the case for that didn’t apply to the race as a whole and not just the paladins.
Right. So this statement applies to humans.
You however have yet to prove it applies to other races.
Being in tune with the light is not the same as being infused with it.
If you have a source that proves all paladins are infused with the light I’d be happy to change my stance. But you haven’t shown a definitive source that applies to anyone but humans.
You are right, that was the original reason.
Then they wrote the lore to support them doing that.
Why they wrote that lore is irrelevant. It’s canon regardless.
This is not true.
Some DKs were paladins before their undeath, but many races that can be DKs could never be paladins, and no DK is currently a paladin.
Meh, they could easily make it like the light hurts traditional undead still. and they are undead after all with brittler bodies on average. Going into melee infusing your body with the light == too much pressure on the body and kaboom.
That works for me.
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They could, but they haven’t, and in fact said the exact opposite.
Undead feel pain when using the light, but it does not psychically damage them unless damaging themselves is the goal.
Also, I’m already having this argument with nick, but there’s no evidence that you must be infused with light to be a paladin.
It really doesn’t, though. She’s not a necromancy raised Undead. She was raised by the Light in an entirely different manner.
According to LORE she is a risen and they do not have paladins, but in the game she certainly casts ret paladin spells [took low level lock to cata and ran it out of light’s hope], so good job blizzard… Failing to follow your own lore again.
Okay, here’s the deal, undead feel a LOT of pain when using the Light, because the Light tries, in a way, to “revive” them, it burns them while it gives back their senses, they feel their decaying joints and so on and so forth.
Now, Priests are a conduit for the Light, through them they channel it to aid others, and it already hurts like crazy, as stated by Alonsos Faol that I am certain is a masochist at this point.
Paladins on the other hand are a beacon to it, they in a way, embodying the Light, inspiring their allies in the battlefield or empowering their attacks to bring righteous judgement or to heal their brothers and sisters in arms.
In other words, you can have an Undead Paladin, but you should be okay with them screaming AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH on /yell, spamming it every time they use Avenging Wrath.
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The most common spec for Undead Priests is Shadow, Holy is a very rare exception, in Classic one of the quests even touches about how the Light abandoned them if you make a Priest, of course, they can use the Light, it’s just extremely painful to them, not to mention that your argument would also support Void Elf Light Paladins, which again, doesn’t make much sense because it would be painful as hell to them, might even cause them to implode or something.
Pain paralysis is indeed a thing. You dont need to be damaged for your body to say “nope, were not doing that today”.
Looks at avenging wrath intensely.
“I want a thing because people tell me I can’t have it”, the thread.
Blizzard can not fail to follow their own lore. It is not physically possible.
Lore is whatever they say it is. If they say something new then the Lore changes. If the new thing they say contradicts an old thing they said then the old thing is no longer true.
The lore belongs to them, and they can change it however they want to.
I have spoken.
You spoke wrong.
No, you can’t say this is a rule then break it no matter who you are except maybe religions… the original story writers [and generations after them] are long gone, so you have tools coming in and just making stuff up, now.
You’re right, I can’t.
I don’t own the story, and neither do you.
Blizzard does though and they can do whatever the hell they want with it.