Undead paladins when?

because cool, great opportunity for lore, unique class fantasy, undead mains getting another (very desirable) class.

also this:

“I don’t want to make any huge promises, but we feel like we want to move towards a world where the race of a character is not a limiter on what they do or what they can become in World of Warcraft. We’re working towards that, but not all of the classes have the same content requirements.” -Brian Holinka

also because we literally already have undead paladins in-game (Scarlet Warder, Scarlet Praetorian).

it’s not inconceivable that we, the mary sue savior of azeroth, could also become the exception as we have done time and time and time again. just sounds like reverse cope lol.

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Hopefully never.

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Hopefully never.

i was reading the wiki, so i guess it’s wrong. but you’re right there are characters such as the Scarlet Warders, which are literally undead paladins (they use Crusader Strike and other pally abilities)

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Wowwiki is hot garbage. You want Wowpedia.

I think they have walked that back.

Ion has since said that certain race/class combos don’t make sense.

“Leonid was a noble paladin until he was killed and later resurrected by the Lich King as a mindless undead.” -Wowpedia

never said i used wowwiki. just the wiki. lmao

It’s probably the one class combo I’ve been waiting for, since Vanilla.

Ever since I saw Sir Zeilek, and that high-ranking Forsaken working with the Argent Dawn.

More recently, Calia Menethil being a “holy” undead, it gives me hope.

My tabard would go so nice with that.

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of course they don’t. but they still gave us lightforged warlocks, tauren rogues, orc mages, etc. why stop there? they’ve already proven they don’t care about what “makes sense” lol.

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I mean with the way everything else is going, might as well

There’s no way in hell Night Elf or Lightforged Warlock makes more sense than an Undead Paladin.

A human paladin can turn undead, it’s that simple lol.

And undead priests are a thing, Alonsus Faol.

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Undead paladins are death knights.

Nah, DKs can’t wield the Light at all.

Nor can they use shields.

We already have an undead paladin, Sir Zeliek.

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not all paladins that became undead become death nights. Leonid Barthalomew was a paladin that did not become a death knight upon resurrection by the Lich King.

look up Scarlet Warder or Scarlet Praetorian. they are canonically undead paladins.

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That’s how I feel about Delas Moonfang and night elf paladins. I hope we get both night elf and undead paladins.

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Undead Paladins should never ever happen for all the obvious reasons.

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state your argument.

Strangely enough, I see Nightborn Elves getting Paladin before undead.

Mostly because it’s easier and more logical to slot them into the class with the current storyline than undead.

Nightborn are fully united with the Blood Elves both politically in the Horde and literally through the marriage of their respective chosen leaders to one another (I’m still mad we didn’t get to see and attend Lor’themar and Thalyssra’s wedding). Currently, they are the only elven factions we have of of all the groups that are truly unified in more than words. There’s no reason to think there couldn’t just be Nightborne interested in joining the ranks of the Blood Knights. People forget that order was originally formed to serve as the Royal Guard. Makes perfect sense for the Guard to now be made up of both Blood and Nightborne elves since the Royal family is now both Blood and Nightborne elves.

They could even create a new order of paladins from both groups specifically for this purpose and call them The Order of the Sun and Moon (symbolically referring to the Blood Elves and the Nightborne). That’s the kind of poetically diplomatic thing that we’d kind of expect to be one of Lor’themar’s bright ideas. Bonus points for romantic undertones of the gesture to his wife since she does so love his poetry :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:. Did I mention I’m absolutely livid we didn’t get to see or attend their wedding?

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As far as I know, this is the last word on the on the subject of all races/paladins (dated April 29, 2024):

Michael Bybee: Yeah, I hear you. I think a Vulpera Paladin would be really cool. You say race restrictions, we say a bunch of extra animation and artwork that we have to do to make that work for a Vulpera Paladin. Unfortunately, especially Paladins and classes that have a lot of extra abilities, it does require work from the team to be able to make that work. Every time we talk about it we feel super passionately about making that. But at this time, we are actually not ready to announce any additional Paladins or other class extensions beyond what you’ve currently seen.

Re: https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-creator-summit-group-interview-michael-bybee-and-sean-mccann-338883#races

So the answer is:

Not in the foreseeable future.

And frankly the game doesn’t need them.

There are already 213 race/class combos and that is more than enough for any sane person.

Could you please point me in the direction of that interview?

I would love to read it.

Whenever Blizzard gets around to making Paladin universal. I expect Shaman to get that treatment next though (or maybe monk but I won’t hold my breath).