Undead or orc warlock?

Disagree… WOTF is very good.
But it is not so much better than stun protection as Rogues in PVP are everywhere…

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I prefer wotf because it’s controllable, not rng based… And shadow priests + opposing warlocks +warriors imo are more of a threat than the average rogue was (exceptional rogues where more rare).

I’d add that succubus is how I counter rogues, they stun me, and stand around with hearts over their head until I kamehameha a shadow bolt to their face and begin a seduce/fear lock chain on them that puts their stun lock to shame. It’s harder to pull off properly, but once you learn to adjust how it works for every distance situation between you and the target, it becomes incredibly potent.

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Nothing beats the UD casting graphic. Nothing.

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Orc see below

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Hmm… This is a tough one for sure! WoTF is strong, and good, and all that other stuff. Can’t disagree there - and although some people would argue that it is “always there,” thus making it more reliable, I wouldn’t discount that stun resist. Yes, it is a % chance and therefore random, but when I played my rogue, seeing an orc really caused the wheels to turn in my head. It made me uncertain of how to proceed, and when you waste 5 combo points on a resisted kidney shot, you never forget. It’s the kind of thing that stays with you forever.

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While the undead warlock is my favorite class/race in wow. The orc warlock can turn the tides against the holy alliance.

Play what you like. The differences are negligible given how strong lock is in vanilla anyway. Of course, I’m a fan of Undead myself. :wink:

Make a contest of it. Ask which one you should choose, have people submit names to go along with the race. Pick the one that strikes your fancy best, or roll dice.

I think I would rather play Undead , due to racial WOTF . Makes me able to brake out of fear while fighting warlocks and priests + warriors intimidating shout .

Just a heads up bro, if youre only raiding for pvp gear, that means youre raiding every week for months dude. An dont count on getting proper gear if your dmg is terrible playing a pvp spec.

And I was told on these forums that on PvP servers, people primarily pick based on aesthetics, not overpowered racials!