Cancelling Bloodrage does not remove you from combat. (1.12.1)
Patch 1.12.2 (Spanish) and 1.12.3 (Traditional Chinese) are far harder to show because of their only applying to the localisation.
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The entire counter argument you are putting forth is based on words that blizzard has not said, they are not holding a patch 1.12 gun to classics head. That is why we are getting things like layering, enhanced visuals, battlenet community groups etcā¦
Lmfao itās like the opposite of a progression server, people are actually arguing in favor of removing content from the game. THAT is the true crime here, it started with the unarmored mounts and it ended with them literally blowing up everything we knew and loved.
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After all is said and done, do some of the counter-argument people actually believe that removing the mounts is good for the game? That players will be happier with the mounts gone and not the other way around? I mean, sure itās just a cosmetic, but itās an iconic part of Classic and these things stack up. Remove mounts, Remove something else and you have yourself a very inauthentic Vanilla that will not make people as happy as it should.
Their words (Blizzardās) were that they are recreating an authentic VANILLA experience. This is not an authentic vanilla experience if you start excluding things like the unarmored mounts.
And key words here āauthentic Vanilla experienceā Not āauthentic 1.12 Vanilla experienceā which will still not be authentic even if were the case because people owned the mounts in 1.12.
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That is not even remotely close to an official Blizzard statement that the " reference patch is 1.12.3".
1.12.0, 1.12.1, 1.12.2 and 1.12.3 were all part of 1.12.
They are using a 1.12 version of bloodrage.
Now, provide an official Blizzard statement thztbthev"reference patch is 1.12.3".
They are using a 1.12.1 version of Bloodrage.
I donāt think you understand how software versions work. Itās not a cherry pick.
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For a moment, put yourselves in the shoes of the Blizzard devs that likely put their political capital within Blizz/Activision on the line to bring back parts of the game that has been absent from legitimate use for a long time.
There is SOOOO much good with whatās available even in the Beta, and people are loosing their mind over unarmored skins of 60% mounts, that were technically not supposed to be released in the first place.
Iāve been trying to consider it from the perspective of those who know they have too much on their plates to ever obtain these mounts. I might be one of those people now too.
I get it, thereās something you see you can never have because you have obligations that are way more important (kids, job, education). IMHO part of being an adult is letting others have their fun even if you canāt too, and being able to celebrate that it was possible at all for someone.
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Untrue. There are people who own the mounts right now in BfA. I donāt know what the hell youāre talking about.
The code is there. There is absolutely no additional work needed to put these in. They can hire one of the plebs in the forums and they can probably write the code for free to add them to the vendors.
This is a multi-billion company and youāre telling me we are making this too hard for them by wanting the unarmored mounts (THAT WERE PART OF VANILLAāS LIFE CYCLE)? I donāt think so. They add inauthentic stuff like layering, loot sharing in raids etc. and they canāt be bothered to add something like this? Nah.
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Exactly. But these people are not adults. And if they were, they really havenāt grown pass the age of 12. When a new kid on the block has a toy and you get so jealous because your parents canāt afford it.
I want the White Stallion Mount, Ancient Frostsaber and Ivory Raptor, but I know I will only have the time to get one of these mounts (if they were brought back) and I am fine with that. I donāt want them to extend the time permanently just for me. Not having something and still seeing it exist in the world is something.
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1.12.1 is part of 1.12.
Therefore, they are using a 1.12 version of bloodrage.
![:man_facepalming:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/man_facepalming.png?v=6" ":man_facepalming:")
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Iām saying that the people who took up the mantle of bringing back Classic likely had to do so with it being an unpopular effort within the larger WOW retail team, and within the mgmt of Activision.
Iām saying, donāt sweat the small stuff. We now have a legitimate version of WOW that requires talking to people for grouping, has a more balanced risk vs. reward system, feels more rewarding for playing, and a bunch of other systems that have been removed over the years.
Iām just sayingā¦sperging out, and pitching a fit with the devsā¦despite all the other work theyāve doneā¦over armored vs non armored intro level mounts seems disproportionate.
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Itās because itās a trade off for them. It might be inauthentic to not have a few players riding on these reskinned mounts, but at the same time it would be inauthentic to have a timed reward at launch. It would be inauthentic to have mount vendors sell both the unarmored mounts and the unarmored ones at the same time. It would be inauthentic to have them be available forever.
They are also game developers. Thereās going to naturally consider what is healthy for the game. If people arenāt going to have as much fun feeling rushed to 60, why would they put them in?
So itās a choice between something that is neither authentic in a large scale sense nor fun, or something that is slightly less authentic. Easy choice.
Jeanerette said it the best out of all of us. Weāre getting what we want in a 99.9999% sense. It was always impossible for them to get it 100% authentic for everyone. They did a great job, and we shouldnāt be splitting hairs over a few oddities.
We are super grateful, donāt get us wrong. Iāve said so before.
We just read from Blizzard that they actually discussed the issue of armored vs non armored internally and the reason given was that they didnāt want players to rush in their first leveling experience.
It wasnāt technical, financial, an issue of not enough people and time for the team or anything we could really accept. It was āyou should play at this paceā. Thatās our beef.
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I think you misunderstand. This is not a do or die situation. All of us here or at least the majority will still play the game. However, I donāt see how itās bad to provide feedback where itās necessary. I absolutely love some of the work the devs have made. Especially when they changed their mind about loot sharing in dungeons. But that doesnāt mean the game is perfect by any means. I think the devs are listening to some feedback, so I hope they reconsider.
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Yes, they want you to play at your pace. Which is the way it should be. If there is no limited time reward, then you have the freedom to choose how you want to get to 60. All the limited time reward does is change the calculus such that getting to an epic mount as quickly as possible has a much stronger weight than it should. You get less choice, not more.
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Actually, you have the choice to go for it or not.
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if we get stuck with crapy 1.12 AV you get no mount.
Lol I donāt want that either but I can only spend so much time here! ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
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