Unarmored Mounts Megathread 2.0

[Mergons-terenas]

To anyone with a bit of IQ to make a better argument.

[Yllara-icecrown]

For reference, it’s been stated many times on this thread that 1.12 is not the reason Blizzard has given. The reason given is that they feel players should not rush through their first leveling experience to obtain a limited time mount.

We disagree fundamentally with this reason as it implies that we are incapable of making balanced decisions when given choices.

If 1.12 were the reason Blizzard stated and if they were consistent with other aspects of the game, this conversation would not be happening.

[Vakul-lethon (Vakul)]

So put them in for a limited time, I don’t care. And current Blizzard shouldn’t have any say in this whatsoever. It is thanks to them that we are where we are and begging for a 15 year old game.

Um, wat? They made the game. A company that isn’t in charge of their own products is silly. If you don’t think Blizzard has it in them anymore, don’t play.

If u want unarmored mounts do u also want them to add new unarmored mounts for the undeads?

They never had different versions for the 100% mounts.

Blizz saw the unarmored mounts as unfinished and so did most of the players, they didn’t want to ride mounts looking like 60%, while the undead were the only ones having cool armored mounts.

That’s actually a good point. It would be unfair to the undead to add them in. They do not have an unarmored epic mount.

[Robfried-shadow-council]

Also if the unarmored ones were u finished what do the finished versions look like? Since they are still in game as both mounts and NPCs and there are no armkred versions with those color schemes? For them to be unfinished it would imply they became finished. Also people dont seem to care whether they were finished or not.

[Saebellia-kelthuzad]

Um, wat? They made the game. A company that isn’t in charge of their own products is silly. If you don’t think Blizzard has it in them anymore, don’t play.

You are a silly troll. Please stop responding to me.

[Mergons-terenas]

For reference, it’s been stated many times on this thread that 1.12 is not the reason Blizzard has given. The reason given is that they feel players should not rush through their first leveling experience to obtain a limited time mount.

I agree the reason they have given is utter But ofc that is just them not wanting to say what they don’t want to say.

So I take any other stance they have on the project as a starting point.

[Vakul-lethon (Vakul)]

We disagree fundamentally with this reason as it implies that we are incapable of making balanced decisions when given choices.

Yes, and we have rebutted that limited time rewards remove player choice. You can’t give people options and then go dangle an artificial carrot on a stick over one of them and act like you somehow have more options. The math behind the decision making is now exceedingly uneven when it should not be.

[Mergons-terenas]

Because It comes down to, have it be like it was. Add these mounts for limited time.

Or people in this thread go down the rabbit hole and to just get them in even want to change how it was and add them in forever, which would be even more of a change then not having them in.

[Vakul-lethon (Vakul)]

Or people in this thread go down the rabbit hole and to just get them in even want to change how it was and add them in forever, which would be even more of a change then not having them in.

Yep, this would be a huge change.

[Mergons-terenas]

So then we go back to having them in Like they were in vanilla, which would translate to having them in for Phase 1 and gone by Phase 2.

Then they said they didn’t want people to feel rushed to get those limited available mounts.

I don’t get why no one here is taking this serious and thinking about it.

Because in vanilla we Didn’t know they would become unobtainable, so having them do that now isn’t even that authenetic to the project of restoring something that’s gone.

The race was never in, for as far everyone knew.

[Robfried-shadow-council]

Why does it matter if they are in forever or limited time they are a reskins of a mount. Its not a big deal bro. Its a teal kodo instead of a brown one with armor they have the same stats its inconsequential. Why do you think after all the changes and inauthenticity with vanilla that unarmored mounts would break the camels back and be the resoning for transmog or lfr or whatever off the wall thing you think it will lead to.

[Mergons-terenas]

Why does it matter if they are in forever or limited time they are a reskins of a mount. Its not a big deal bro.

Because it’s a change, this is not worth a discussion. If u want to make a honest Argument for these mounts to be in don’t come up with changes just to get counter arguments, that’s just silly.

[Robfried-shadow-council]

A change from what?

[Belkira-tichondrius]

I equate anyone that puts this much value on cosmetics with those same people that took us down the path to BFA.

I get it, since we’re doing progressive content release then why not have the unarmored mounts in game during that content period. Makes sense to me.

Now I’ll say what I’ve said in all these threads, the only reason people want these mounts is because in retail they are very rare. That’s it. Period. The models are terrible, they don’t have any special bloom/spell effects, they weren’t rare until they were removed from game they were just the unfinished models that were released on launch.

The people that place so much value on something cosmetic should re-evaluate exactly what it is they expect from vanilla because last I checked Vanilla is not cosmetic friendly.

Now, that being said I mean even if Blizzard put the unarmored mounts in the game I guarantee 90% of the people asking for the mount won’t hit 60 and have the gold before it’s taken out of the game. Just like the real vanilla experience.

[Robfried-shadow-council]

You are the one crying wolf implying that if they let a guy have a teal kodo its gonna lead to other things. Dont put your words in my mouth bro.

[Robfried-shadow-council]

Lol look at the stones on this guy to be able to say something like that with out an ounce of shame or sense of irony lol

[Yllara-icecrown]

Actually, we did have a short window where we were aware they would be patched out. I can’t recall how many days or weeks before the patch, as it was so long ago.

Either way, every player I knew from week 1 was saving gold, missing out on buying certain skills, scrimping and saving first for their mount and then for their epic (especially if you pvp and don’t want to get run down). I don’t see much changing if they were implemented or not.

I am sorry those posting here with little playtime don’t want them implemented, but I know people with small kids and full time jobs who just want to see these mounts riding around even if they can’t have them. It adds to the world and makes it more authentic. Their words not mine.

[Vakul-lethon (Vakul)]

If some reskins are the difference between an authentic experience and a non-authentic experience, it sounds like they’d be happier in retail. All Blizzard does is reskin things. You can have reskinned tiers, reskinned mounts, reskins upon reskins.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

The mounts were not supposed to be a planned limited time reward. Removing them was a necessity, and so was adding the vendor to exchange them

Actually, they were removed because Blizzard thought they were too boring. Not because it was a ‘necessity’.

[Vakul-lethon (Vakul)]

Actually, they were removed because Blizzard thought they were too boring. Not because it was a ‘necessity’.

Don’t really matter why they did it. The Vanilla devs, not current Blizzard, didn’t want them in Vanilla. Why in the world would they put them in the definitive edition of the game when they didn’t want them in the original?