Unacceptable handling of Elemental design

Well laid out. It’s unfortunate that people are so blinded by overall and M+ numbers.

Another factor that is important to point out is that the heavyhanded nerfs to Ascendance make our M+ profile worse in more ways than just the raw numbers, since the key overall will take longer for the entire group, further reducing our overall damage in a key.

It’s a metric that is not hard to realize is flawed, and balancing around the highest high is still unfair. Balancing around 85, 90, or 95 are much more competent, but blizzard seems to only have eyes for the outrageous.

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About time you guys got brought back to earth. About. Damn time #asaltyrogue

Well its more so we’re getting put 6 feet under as it stands. We’re getting the Uldir Sub Rogue treatment.

It’s just a lazy attempt at balancing the numbers. There’s absolutely no reason for us as the community to trust them.

The 11.0.5 numbers that launched last week were intentional, not a bug. They worked on that patch for weeks and weeks and were content with what they launched. Now it looks like people who had no clue what they were doing just threw some numbers out there for the ability/damage updates that weren’t based on anything they tested.

What’s to say these nerf numbers weren’t pulled out of their rear end too.

There was no use talking to people who claimed the nerf happened already when it clearly had not (3 days ago). Yesterday the actual nerf was released. Be happy, you finally are where you claimed to be.

You think 3 days was a long time?

We were already nerfed, Lightning rod was nerfed and took us from overperforming to 2-5 best depending on the fight. Then we got the other nerfs on Tues and now the Ascendance Fix(st nerf). Looking at heroic raids all percentile all fights we’re are 2nd to last only above Fire Mage. Well I guess Augvoker is below ele by a hair, but being tied with Aug isn’t good considering aug is only that low due to it’s buffs that ele doesn’t bring.

We can clearly see you were wrong about ele. Compare the above with 11.0.5 wk1 in heroic and you’ll see ele dead middle and that includes the days it was overperforming prior to LR nerf. Even in Mythic ele is only 4th from the bottom. Ele wasn’t overperforming as much as you thought, but it was nerfed to exactly where others told you it would be. Even now your wrong since you’re saying ele is where others claimed it was before(mid pack) and it definitely isn’t(bottom).

Ele AOE is alright, but it’s ST is incredibly bad. What’s worse is that ele can no longer run without ascendance because that contributes way too much of their damage and how they parse depends largely on the fight length and how closely it ends to just after an ascendance is used up.

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All I know is… things didn’t feel terrible before the rework. Things felt amazing last week. Things feel terrible now.

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