Ultimate Retribution

(Zenal) #13

Looks like it might’ve been fixed.


This is where you are wrong sir, CC dps it has to be kicked damage does not break the rez. OR JUST BUBBLE REZ! i did it 5 times in arena, 2 in one match so it has use, plus that 20% wings is pretty much time to spam heals to your partner and do big heals to the team


can confirm, ultimate retribution is currently bugged and is eating avenging wrath/crusade CD

(Zeroburrito) #16

it’s only eating crusade for me. i always run it and it has never put wrath on cd. it always puts crusade on cd though.


Has anyone tried running Ultimate Retribution during an AV or Isle of Conquest?

As the team engages the final boss, it seems inevitable that someone is going to die; allowing this buff to remain up the entire boss fight. I have found myself, several times, just standing around spamming Brezs the entire fight!

This talent is simply amazing to say the least!

Also, using Repentance in conjunction with Ultimate Redemption may allow you to get off the 6 second cast much easier in smaller skirmishes. This makes it totally possible to get off a rez even if you have someone focusing you.


This coupled with Retribution proccing from ally deaths is just…way too fun. Especially if you pick up HoW, you just become a winged death machine, since we can Divine Steed as well we’re basically a holy horsemen/women of apocalyptic hammer throwing.

It’s definitely a creative talent! Haven’t been able to really find a use for it in Arena yet over the other talents being far more consistent but it’s great in WPVP and BGs.


Yes, this patch saved Ret for me. Ult Ret, and the new traits really brought the spec back to life for me - especially all the synergy. Speaking of witch, when you use a free Divine Storm proc from Empyrean Power, the Light’s Decree animation occurs but not the damage, is that a bug?

(Kargyraa) #20

I think you mean Raptormen/Women

(Zeroburrito) #21

the proc does not use holy power.

(Stevas) #22

U play Ret!??! Nice! Who cares Josh cant pronounce ur name :))))

(Belerian) #23

While this might be true I can definitely see behaviour like this leading to nerfbat treatment.
This patch fueled my enthusiasm for ret again (luckily), but the damage I do in random battlegrounds begins to frighten me a little. Not long before other classes will cry for ret nerfs.
It was fun while it lasted…

(Àngelous) #24

This is my fear as well. I’m consistently topping the damage and killing blow chart in bgs and not by just a little. Just waiting for the crying to start.


A lot of things don’t use holy power but still act like they do, such as divine purpose, in some cases (works with selfless healer doesn’t work with HoJ.) However, as I mentioned the Light’s Decree animation actually happens.


One thing that gives me hope is that Ret finally has a more defined role and identity: high damage, strong deference, low mobility. In many previous years we were a very vague spec, with no clearly defined purpose (sometimes we were a strong off healer, then strong anti-CC, then bursty… it was all very chaotic), which I think led to many dysfunctional nerfs. Hopefully our awful mobility will be taken into account if and when people start crying.


Knowing the philosophy behind the Divine Purpose/Relentless Inquisitor interaction, I assume its the same thing but I’ll double check. Since you aren’t “spending” HP it shouldn’t trigger the effect. So the damage is correctly not triggering but the animation might not be getting the message.

(Wuhjikô) #28

Sorry for the slight derailment.

But is the team aware of the issue with wings for any paladin that previously had the glyph in. It’s stopping us from using the new wings when we talent into anything but avenging crusade.

Been an issue since 8.1 release and I’m sure most of the healers would actually like to use their new wings without picking an inferior talent for mythic+ content.

The only work around currently is to re glyph and remove it again and that only works until we log out and it reverts back to the glyph animation.

Just for testing purposes I’ve done

removal of all addons
removal of wtf folder
complete wipe and reinstall of the game
actually deleted my character and used the restore feature

Nothing works and I feel like it’s an issue on the teams end and it’s very depressing having a cool new animation that you simply cannot use because of a bug.

I’ve hit them up on twitter, reddit and made a bug thread. So far everything has been ignored and it would be cool just to know they’re aware of the issue.

(Bertimus) #29

I wish you played mm hunter so we could have this kind of discussion about scatter shot.


Awesome, thank you.


Ythisens, do you think you can ask the dev team about a glyph of exorcism? Would be really cool to have :slight_smile:

(Divenity) #32

Please yes… While we’re at it, a glyph for the Final Verdict animation from WoD would also be stellar, I absolutely adored that animation.