Need advice. I’ve been trying to buy an i9 10900k since May with no luck, so considering the i9 10850k. My current very hot and overclocked i5 7600k at 5.1 ghz 4 cores are not cutting it anymore.
Primary use case is gaming, with some folding while AFK and ocasionl live stream or rendering but not often.
Before everyone says go AMD, the current AMD processors can not reach the clock speed of my 3 year old intel so not sure why I would do that, unless zen 3 is going to meet and exceed 5 ghz. I need more cores than I have currently yes, but not the OMGCORES that AMD seems to be pushing. After all this is for gaming.
So go 10850k or wait to see if Zen 3 is better? If I switch to AMD I will have to also buy a new cooler and im not sure if my ram is compatible with AMD zen 3.
all the cpus you mention will play wow without breaking a sweat, MS flight Sim is currently DX 11 so the fastest cores possible. Right now AMD doesn’t have anything to keep up with a 9900k (much less 8700k/9700k) in gaming while stock. Considering the 10850 is a K chip you can still OC it if ryzen does make a jump and still stay ahead.
As do most games, so intel it is, again. And since I cant find a 10900k for under a thousand dollars, 10850k it is then.
Im not a fanboy of AMD or Intel, I genuinely go with whatever is best. It seems like year after year (been building PC’s about 15 years) it’s always intel. Confused by the AMD hype train I always see online unless you need lots of cores.
It should be noted that the 9600k performed just as well as the 9900k here. In WoW it performs quite well too, not really any different than the 9900k.
If (and probably only if) you ONLY play WoW and MSFlightsim2020, then perhaps it might be worthwhile to look for some discount deals on the 9600k, which is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper.
Although, personally, I’d get the 3600 as it’s the overall winner jack of all trades CPU.
I see the 9600k go as low as $159, and it can be overclocked quite well.
Although, coming from an i5-7600k, i would personally go for something with wider resources…so i guess a 10700k makes sense. But it’s like, $420. In WoW and Flightsim, I don’t know if a 3600/3700x/3900x would outperform a highly clocked 7600k.
I appreciate the advice, and while I refuse to spend more than double the MSRP for a CPU (i9 10900k) I am not too concerned about value because every time I build and go with “good enough” I always end up regretting it. My system is more than capable of Microsoft Flight Simulator in every way except an i5 4 core CPU because it was “good enough” for my use case in 2017. This time I am going all out and trying to future proof a bit
I would wait for Zen 3 - I sincerely believe at least parity will be achieved with 10th gen Intel (and probably improvement) regarding gaming, and you’ll almost certainly get more resources for less money.
You may want to consider that AMD Chipsets support PCIE4, which it seems both new AMD and Nvidia cards will be using. It’s speculated there won’t be a huge difference (if any) since even the 2080 ti barely benefits from PCIE3 over 2, but some reports show other GPUs do show a difference between PCIE3 and 4.
That seems like sound advice. I guess I could wait another month or two but that thermal throttling in Flight Sim is getting on my nerves and I really love that game Lol.
Do you think my corsair vengence 3200mhz DDR 4 ram would run in a zen 3 motherboard? Stupid question but the last AMD system I had was literally an fx 8150 bulldozer.
ugh, I hate tweaking ram. its so easy with intel, just click load XMP profile and call it a day Lol.
Something else that scares me about AMD boards Ive looked at. They seem to have near constant firmware updates where as Intel has maybe 1 or 2 a year. It really scares me about system stability with AMD. How stable can you be with 3 firmware updates in a month lol I still feel compelled to likely stick with Intel unless AMDs offerings with zen 3 offer clear strong advantages in gaming.
I have mostly Intel systems (although I tend to favor AMD GPUs), except one first generation Ryzen CPU (along with owning a first generation X370 and second generation B450 motherboard, which is current), and experience with building a 3rd generation Ryzen CPU.
Intel systems generally as you said worked with XMP with one click; however, all the AMD systems needed work to get the memory to run at the rated speeds; my first generation Ryzen 5 1600 would not run at 3200mhz (or even 2666mhz) on the first board without lots of work. The board eventually failed, and now here we are on the newer B450 which does work on 3200, but again, it needed work.
My friend’s Ryzen 7 3800x is paired with an ASUS X570 TUF GAMING and he got 3600 CL16 RAM, which also required work to get running right.
Ultimately they all worked, but it took time.
I might upgrade my 8700k to a 4th gen Ryzen, but that would only be so I can retire one of my older systems.
From my experience RAM speeds on AMD boards is very much a YMMV thing. My friend with a X570 Aorus Master + 3700X had his RAM running at the 3200Mhz it was rated for by just loading the XMP profile in BIOS, no problem. His memory is Samsung B-die and was selected precisely because it was known to work well OOB, though… so really if you want one-click RAM overclocking on AMD you just need to do a little research instead of buying the cheapest sticks of RAM you can find.
