Ulduar is the pinnacle of World of Warcraft. Beyond Naxx. And here is the proof:

Yes.
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OK this one deserve this

Define “casual”.

People think that Yogg 0 is Sartharion + 3 drakes.

I’m laughing.

It’s tougher for sure.

But it’s still only around 4 mechanics.

My guild will week 1 it.

They also turned their gravity chambers up to 10g’s while practicing on these private servers. They have also been on the carnivore diet since they were 5 years old and alternate sessions in the sauna and cold plunge between wipes. lmao i bet ulduar gets full cleared in 15 minutes. tops. day 1.

It’s literally ezmode compared to Mythic Jaina or Nathria

Yes and we see such low clear rates on mythic for this reason, on top of the fact that the retail playerbase is worse and more casual

Which again none of you and none of these called guilds have cleared or ever played.

Don’t compare to something that is out of the scale. You won’t have any other hard encounter until LK Heroic (which in my humble opinion is not harder than yogg 0, even though the memory of everyone here is going back to Yogg 0 after ToC or even ICC).

People, including me, have been clearing this for years on warmane and such. It’ll be cleared day 1 zero light and all without a doubt. It’s low/mid tier mythic content if even.

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Laughing at pirate server players calling they will clear this on day one.

Yes they will clear. This is classic. It’s a solved game.

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You can laugh all you want, but that won’t change the fact that private server players will be clearing this day one. What exactly do you think is different my guy lmao

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If it’s even metaphysically possible, it will happen. Multiples times. Don’t delude yourself.

It may actually not be with naxx gear. No one in this thread has provided objective analysis on the actual yogg fight. I don’t know and wouldn’t know, but you all just argue subjectively because you are bored. The insanity mechanic? Adds? Going inside yogg?

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Plenty of guilds will clear Ulduar on release

Sorry waiting for the Proof?

Ulduar is below SWP difficulty except the last 3 hardmodes.

It just felt amazing compared to how awful t7 was. Normal mode ulduar was below BT in difficulty, minus yogg who was probably close to illidari council pre nerf. The version of council we got in classic was nerfed, abilities were removed.

It’s like how people say “ legion was great” because they compare it to WoD and BFA.

I am looking forward to ulduar, just hoping it isn’t ruined by item level buffing

Every raid people claim this in classic and everytime that raid gets released they get proven wrong.

Yogg 0 will be downed day 1 its released.

This is classic raiding, not mythic raiding. Theyre basically doing flex raiding difficulty in classic.

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No guild cleared Jailor Mythic on day 1 either. Shadowlands is the pinnacle of World of Warcraft.