Sure, except that the statement I was replying to was arguing I only had to kill one boss for the token piece. 4 was my correction to that. The original context included the boss dropping the item.
Yeah but you cant get glory of rhe ulduar raider achievement anymore
If you mean it’s not feasible, that may be so. If you mean the achievement is no longer there, I was under the impression that they retired the 10-man and 25-man specific versions and introduced a new one that rewards both of the protodrakes if achieved.
They did.
Yes you can. They just combined the 10 and 25 man versions into one version that gives both mounts.
I was having trouble never getting the “normal” tier tokens either and I finally found my solution on the Wowhead Hunter set comments. See below…
"I’ve been farming this set for a while and couldn’t understand why I never got the tier tokens to drop. Perhaps this is obvious and I’m just oblivious but since this is the only raid that converts bosses to ‘heroic’ mode through mechanics then I’m going to cut myself some slack.
You need to do these on normal mode to get the tokens to drop. At high levels it is hard to not just plow thru and kill the bosses outright but that usually converts them to heroic and you won’t get the token.
Helm: Mimiron (10) - Don’t push the giant red button. This one is the one I got all the time because I never pushed the button.
Shoulders: Thorim (10) - Wait three minutes before attacking Thorim. It used to be a race to get to him under that time but to keep it in normal you’ll just need some patience.
Chest: Yogg-Saron (10) - Activate all the keepers before leaving the antechamber. Not sure if activating one matters versus all of them since there’s different achievements for how many keepers are up.
Gloves: Freya (10) - Kill the three tree ancients before attacking Freya.
Legs: Hodir (10) - Get all the npcs out of their ice blocks before killing Hodir.
Hope this helps some hunters out there who felt like they were just ridiculously unlucky."
If you are already doing it this way then, I’d say you are just very unlucky. But I wasnt. I was just running in and nuking the crap out of stuff, turning it to “heroic” mode.
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You only need to activate 2 of them.
0 keepers just gives you a chance at the mount, if you don’t get mount you get a trinket instead. 1 keeper gives you an extra item too.
This seems odd as putting a boss into their hard mode gives you an extra piece from their hard mode only loot table. It doesn’t replace everything. Hell, I’ve gotten tokens from either the old 10 man or the old 25 man from bosses that I put as hard mode on my priest when I was getting those sets last year (so Ulduar was already turned into a flexible raid).
To be it feels like this comment was more of a coincidence. Thus just a correlation. Which does not mean causation unless tests enough times and supported by statistical analysis.
The thing is, tier tokens used to be a 100% drop chance for 2-3 loot spots. Which was why bosses that dropped tier tokens had little non tier pieces in their loot table (e.g. Deathbringer Saurfang in ICC only has 5 non tier pieces on 25 man normal and heroic. On 10 man he has more because 10 man normal ICC doesn’t drop tier tokens while 10 man heroic does. And heroic loot tables are the same as normal versions just at a higher “ilvl”). However at some point blizzard broke that system and tier tokens are now part of the regular loot table. Meaning you could get a tier token one week and none the next.
This seems to still have loot issues. I’ve been trying to get the shield that drops from 25-man hard mode Thorim. 3 characters, every week, for months now. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything other than gold drop from the heroic cache.
If it’s a reduced chance, they seriously need to fix it.
Bumping the thread as this hasn’t been fixed.
Bumping again. Granted, this will never be fixed.
Trying to get 25man tier sets is pretty much a 0.2% grind now.
If this is the same for trial of crusader, there are 14 possible items each boss for each difficulty of the loot table. So across 4 different difficulties, and only 2 items dropping each attempt solo, some of which can be duplicates. There is a 1 in 56 chance to get the item you want. that is half way to being as rare as some of the rare mounts and based on probably would take me 56 weeks to collect one specific item to complete an achievement to complete a set.
If I could choose the mode 10/10H,25/25H at least then I would have a 1 in 14 chance which it pitifully low to begin with. And on 24H you get more items so its actually realistic to complete sets.
This is a total joke and makes me want to not play this game it’s insulting.
Seriously disrespectful to a significant part of the player base who want to complete collections and transmogs for alts