We need some INSANE buffs to our core rotation in M+ and Raid. We just fall flop on our face outside cooldown and it feels so bad.
Buffs to disease and epidemic damage need to happen.
Buffs to death coil and bursting wounds have to happen.
Why are rogues top 3 damage abilities Blade furry, Pistol shot and dispatch able to be their top 3 while we have to maintain 5 buffs to even stay relevant.
You’re just whining because frost is the better spec for raiding right now.
Not going to change anything really when about 60% of Unholy’s damage is pet damage. Buffing diseases which make up about 3% of your damage is almost as useless as throwing a leaf on a bon-fire and expecting it to make it vastly hotter.
Pet dmg is in raid, in m+ pet dmg is nothing diseases need a srs buff.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/31#dataset=75
Feel free to adjust the percentile, at all levels UH does more overall raid DPS and damage to bosses. If anything, buff Frost.
Ok… By how much? What % of your damage should be disease damage?
Why not the other aspects? Scourge Strike cleave? Wound damage? Death coil? DnD?
I think Diseases should be stronger for a couple reasons.
They’re a core fantasy to Unholy, along with the pets. It’s a different damage profile (AOE), and differs from Bursting Sores. There is also some design space to do more with diseases to help flesh out M+ damage, such as adding talents that cause your diseases to deal more to a primary target (perhaps having Festering Strike increase the damage the target takes by your diseases by a significant amount to help Diseases in ST to some degree).
No specific percentages I’d like to call out, but I think diseases have the most potential to be used to buff Unholy in PVE to make them less one dimensional. Currently they feel like they’re all AOE or all ST which isn’t fun.
They are core to the DK. But their damage output has been historically very low. Even with Ebon Plaguebringer they werent a huge portion of the damage.
It is core to DK, but I’d argue Unholy has historically had more ties to disease. I mean even now, we focus around creating festering sores and rupturing them. I’m certain they’re only not considered diseases for balance reasons, so that they aren’t dispellable.
Either way; my point stands, it’s the part of the kit that has the most promise on rounding out our damage profile so that our specs aren’t so polar.
OP i think your problem is with how powerful our modifiers are to our damage abilities
unholy strength 15%
festermight X%
commander of the dead 35%
The more powerful these are, the less powerful the baseline is, If you take power out of cooldowns and buff the base by near equal numbers, you get a more consistent damage output but overall the same amount of damage, its just less spiked during cooldowns
The only way that Unholy has more ties to diseases is because it had a 3rd disease and that disease did no damage. It was just there for things like Scourge Strike that scaled off of the number of diseases and increasing magic damage for the party, and increasing disease damage which diseases still did a low percentage.
Unholy has an issue with consistent dmg outside of the burst window, a disease buff would solve that. Plus uh DK has 4 diseases, not 3.
They also need to buff ST dmg abilities as well like DC, SS, FS to give unholy more dmg outside of DT and gargoyle cds.
Im not even sure im specced right so feel free to pick me apart but i have been doing well in dungeons. My issue is i feel udk damage is way to heavily reliant on cds and if you are to just attack a normal npc enemy without using cds our damage is below bad.
Everything works fine until you play with good players who know how to play optimally. Then you will understand how bad unholy is. The numbers in rdf and low keys dont mean anything.
No, it wouldnt solve it. They only had 3 diseases, frost fever, blood plague and ebon plaguebringer which was upgraded crypt fever. Thats 3.
Why do you need buffs to other abilities if a disease buff would solve it?
You’re just outing yourself as a bad player with this post lol.
Do you have any logs we can look at? I think UH is quite viable and the buffs to uptime on Icy-Talons and Plaguebringer and the buff to scourge strike the spec feels really really good. I think if we took a look at what your doing we can maybe manage or give some feedback.
Either Blizzard stops designing Frost around Breath and trolling with other builds/2h frost, or they need to tweak Unholy.
We can’t have both our DPS specs be so heavily centered around cooldowns/windows.
Ideally both. Unholy is actually pretty easy to fix. Diseases can make that work quite easily. Festering strike alone has so much potential to make single target diseases work without it affecting AOE since you can’t make it cleave. I’m not sure why they haven’t.
Frost needs a lot of love.
Mmm did you know that unholy blight is alsona disease ? So this is why you are a lvl 60 DK ?