Sylvanas is too, but this is about the High Priestess.
Being angry and holding a perpetual hissy fit is not a character flaw. If she is supposed to be consumed by rage as a balancing flaw, the stoicism she is showing is undermining that flaw. At the very least, it is not a strong enough flaw to balance out the power level. Had the sacrifice required to invoke the Night Warrior be more personal (instead of a random orc), the flaw:power balance would feel more even. Perhaps she should’ve been required to sacrifice her mount, instead (not Malfurion, her actual mount)? Power comes at a price, and the stronger the power, the more dire the price.
I’ve seen fan fiction on these forums that is better written. At this rate they could probably crowd source the lore and just hire a continuity expert.
Of course, I lay most of the blame on the supposed “to-spec” writing the big wheels ask for. Writing from endpoint to endpoint too easily lends the middle to fall flat.
Someone has clearly never been so angry they ceased to give a sh*t.
Kidding aside, Tyrande’s fury is a cold fury, if that makes any sense. A hot fury is one where you scream, you rage, you’re blinded by hate. A cold fury is one that comes with clarity of mind, bringing focus, letting you harness that hatred.
It is interesting that she is stoically focused on revenge…
The focus allows her to deem Horde Players helping her as their atonement in the Night Warrior Torghast Scenario.
Of course we don’t know if Malfurion would accept this… His words(roughly saying “It’s not yet time” to calm Tyrande down) in Shadows Rising indicates that he wants vengeance against the Horde as a whole at a suitable time where it’s most convenient!
The Night Warrior isn’t mindless revenge but cold focused pragmatic revenge that won’t turn away from it’s primary target!
Tyrande and Elune might be satisfied with Sylvanas and Nathanos getting permanent death yet Malfurion might not be…
Blizzard might Villain Bat Malfurion instead of Tyrande…
Il’gynoth -“The Vassal of Life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green.”
Of course how would Malfurion go about unleashing brutal vengeance after Tyrande herself has let go upon killing Sylvanas? Make it look like someone else did it of course!
I’m sure Night Elves would love to see the Horde lose a Zone and City(preferably Orgrimmar) but how would they react if the Night Elf responsible blamed it on the Botani(who hate the Horde themselves) and got them genocided?
How would they react to Malfurion Genociding another Race as Smokescreen to hide his own Genocide against the Horde from the Horde to keep them from declaring war on the Night Elves again(due to fear that the Horde could potentially finish the job they started)?
OK … Kat … no. Lets not point the Sue card at PC races in general, because the Forsaken wouldn’t be close to the top of that list. Sylvanas might be getting a bit heavy on the sue traits, but the Forsaken have always been generally on the weaker side of the spectrum for Racial Power Fantasies. All they really have going for them is a certain level of damage and pain resistance. This is far cry from (for example) the NEs, who if Blizz just left them alone they’d probably be one of the most flawless sueperman races in Warcraft.
As to the OPs point. No. Tyrande has always been powerful; the Night Warrior apparently has some brutal side-effects; and her bodying Nate without his thousands-of-souls anima juiced up Primes backing him up makes total sense. There is nothing Sue about it.
Tyrande has shown flaws, poor decisions, and failures. Additionally other people point out the flaws. She is not universally loved (even among her own faction). So, in short, not a Mary Sue.
Your post comes across as just pissed that she curb stomped Nathanos.
I would have assumed it was Freya since we haven’t seen crap of her in ages. She has green eyes and by definition a “Vassal” is: a holder of land by feudal tenure on conditions of homage and allegiance. She’s literally the Vassal of Eonar, though she is a technically a entity of Arcane.
That, or something off about the Ysera we’ve been interacting with in Ardenweald. She is also a Vassal of Life. Not sure what would be going on with her if that’s the case.
A Vassal doesn’t have to be a person either. It can be an entity, a group or an organization.
I’m going for the more obvious answer. There’s a Corruption in Ardenweld that goes all the way to the top. We see that the other Covenants are all corrupted, with those ruling it either Crooked, Misled, or Blindly ignorant/incompetent.
It’d be foolish to think that Ardenweld is immune to it as well.
The winter queen does not have green eyes though, so it would need to be a character close to her in her court if she has one. And while I don’t doubt that each Shadowlands we’re focusing on is broken in some way, corruption of each domain also seems to have manifested in different ways.
Revendreath has forsaken its duty, and is corrupted from its top leadership down. Maldraxxus’ central figure has disappeared, with several of its parts being perverted by a thirst for power. Bastion … I’m not certain yet, but it seems the corruption is manifesting in “doubt” or a loss of a central flawed purpose? It remains to be seen whats going on with Ardenweald that ties into its drought, but considering the other sides have “TOP leadership issues” covered … I don’t expect the damage to be coming from the WQ herself at the very least.
umm…they are not? Forsaken basically only have flaws. Their one and only strength is poisons. They are literally a broken people. (with missing jaws to boot).
unlike…say…night elves that are portrayed as basically perfect in all things possible.
You’re argument would apply to the entire Horde faction. And a PC race being protected exclusively by the mechanical reality that you cannot destroy an entire PC race for Blizz’s own Garbage Writing is not being a “Mary Sue”. Certainly not a like race that by birth is supposed to be: Stronger; More Agile; Longer Lived; More Magical; Smarter; and Wiser than any other race (save the Draenei). They are also nearly timeless; thrice blessed by demigods; and the Chosen People of the “only real” God in not just the world, but apparently the entire Universe.
You want to throw “Mary Sue” around at PC races … the only reason such an inconceivably flawless and superior by default race like the NEs isn’t one … is because Blizz keeps picking on them.
More like turning a blindeye to the system’s failing in order to maintain the illusion of control. The Shadowlands is broken but if they admit it, it means the “Path” is somehow wrong.
I’m not exactly saying it has to be the WQ, although, she does creep me out in a deep way (gives off a distinct Ragyō Kiryūin vibe), but rather she is the one who’s going to be experiencing the Betrayal spoke of in the Quote.
