So i pugged a raid tonight on this character an alt. So guild run form area 52 server etc etc. i didn’t realize that they had a couple 400 ilvl join. I guess i was suppose to give up my loot.
I said umm NO. Kicked(after behoth trinket did not drop which i have already)— Folks wonder why masterloot is gone and will stay gone. A member of the group replied after i let loose on him. "We are a mythic raid group and you are only 6/8 heroic. "
See that two points on the anti masterloot thread. Mythic raid group kicks when they do not get the loot for their lowbie. Honestlly if they had asked I would have said sure. OH well vented a typical crap pug experience nowadays. That is all.
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This has “half of the story” written all over it. I have no idea why any mythic group that was trying to gear alts would invite pugs, theres a fair chance you wouldn’t have been able to trade anything if you had got it.
It also sounds like you were told what was going on in the group when you joined it, you refused to accept the rules but they kept you in case you could trade something that you already had and then got rid of you because you refused the rules of the group. Doesn’t seem like any bamboozling was going on.
Also:
So shenanigans are present, they’re on your end. I fully encourage you to stay away from group play though. Being disruptive like that and then coming here to post an obvious made up story means you’re probably not a joy to be around.
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Master looter gone?! That is a godsend. After seeing a Guild Master ninja, getting into an argument with a couple others about having people who need upgrades have a fair shot at gear, I quit a few guilds because fairness was thrown to the wind. Later when pugging I was witness to being burned repeatedly myself and seeing raid leaders also ninja gear–preventing others from having a fair shot at upgrades they had earned. All I can say is Yaay. This was long overdue, and it better stay in place, or at least one person won’t be playing the game much if at all afterwards.
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I mean, we could have just kept the Legion system where you needed like an 80% guild group or it was forced PL.
Then if you joined a guild group you would go knowing full well it wasn’t PL. Happened to me in Legion on Guldan, joined a guild group to get a quest done and a trinket dropped I wanted. They apologized and said a guildie needed it so I couldn’t roll… and that’s fine because I knew that would happen in a 80% guild run.
Strict forced PL is bad imo, not because PL itself is bad but because Legion found a good medium for ML and PL… which was quite surprising. BFA changed what wasn’t broken, and will just be another example of Blizzard making changes that aren’t necessary.
You also stated someone replied to you AFTER you let loose into them… just leave with grace if it’s honestly that bad of a PUG, makes the situation worse if you don’t.
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I don’t know how you and OP find time to play the game now as you’re both apparently full time fiction writers.
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Does not compute.
Personal loot is awful and it’s a damn shame Blizz took out the choice of doing what you wanted.
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My point is bullying tactics were in play and it sucks. If you are ok with it that is on you. Even in a pug if you treat other players like NPC’s just there to feed you loot at your desire than your issues are clear. I don’t like that crap and that is the point. Hey it’s my opinion and I’m expressing it. That is all.
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Its not bullying if they tell you up front whats going on and you still join. That’s you not being good on your word and trying to force the group to do what you want, the very thing you’re trying to say they did. YOU are the one trying to force things on people in this situation.
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I can say that on the few occasions we’ve pugged a filler (almost exclusively from other guildies’ M+ friends list so they’re not really unknowns), they’ve been exempt from our loot council.
That said, it’s the RL’s call, and chances are he made the house rules clear to you early on. If you agreed then went against it, you’re the squeaky wheel.
You know there’s something called logs? We can actually see who you ran with? The guild you ran with on 10/2 for Zaq had no one below 423. So the claim for 400 ilvl people? That’s a bloody lie.
I guess i was suppose to give up my loot.
I said umm NO. Kicked (after behoth trinket did not drop which i have already)— Folks wonder why masterloot is gone and will stay gone.
You finished Zaq with that group on this toon, and then had MORE wipes on Ashzara. So the claim you got kicked? That’s a lie too.
A member of the group replied after i let loose on him. "We are a mythic raid group and you are only 6/8 heroic.
The guild you killed Zaq with? They are 7/8 and has no mythic kills. So this little interchange? Also a lie.
So, is there any truth to this story? Or did you make everything up to trash masterloot, which you probably never had a need to use?
Oh, before you claim it was on a different character, this is what you wrote
So i pugged a raid tonight on this character an alt.
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Wrong. The group was after the behemoth trinket.We did the first 2 bosses only. It is logged. You need to learn how to read before you for some reason try to “disprove my opinion???” The Zaqui group I ran with later were very nice folks. Sorry if it’s your time of month but move along.
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You’re not one of those misguided people who believe that an opinion is immune to being wrong, I hope. It sure sounds like that’s what you’re implying…
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Wow, you know why I didn’t even consider that you meant the first 3? Because the bloody group was half pugs so IT DIDN’T EVEN QUALIFY FOR MASTERLOOT IN THE FIRST PLACE. When you complain about something, at least make it relevant?
Second, that group had 1 person that’s around 410, there’s not a couple 400s.
Lastly, that raid kept going all the way to the end, and most of the pugs stuck around, that should tell you something.
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Katryona is just OWNING YOU Shadeus. Just get up and walk away at this point.
You got called out for your bs story by Mcbeardsly and then she OWNED YOU ROYAL in a public forum! She didn’t just hammer you, she napalm bombed you in the face.
NO ONE HERE BELIEVES YOU.
No.
One.
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This 1 time i was in a guild and another druid rooted me and the GM stole all my gear and left me with nothing on…How can people just ninja loot me like that…/s
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Oh boy, youre derailing hard now. 
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Big yikes, I guess if you play a female character you’re automatically a female on your period these days. Annoying AND sexist? Please uninstall.
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