They didn’t do a horrible job but it’s so painfully obvious. My main gripe is the amount of bugs and filler content nobody really wanted. Way too many of these bugs are present in class talents, it’s sooo bad.
Karesh is half-baked.
Player House has massive potential and could revive this game like we’ve seen, so I can see why they did this.
Midnight should be amazing. Hopefully.
Yeah that seems accurate. I think part of it is also that they took a story originally intended for one expansion and split it into three. The story may have been too much for one expansion, but I’m not sure it’s enough for three.
It’s good that so many people are excited about housing. As a player who doesn’t have any interest in WoW housing whatsoever, I hope the other parts of Midnight are good. Hopefully all the focus on housing won’t make the rest of the expansion suffer.
dont worry housing isnt a midnight feature its a wow feature. midnight has its own features
housing has their own dev team separate from the ones who do the expansion content
I’m sure it started out that way. Do we know if that’s still true after all the M$ mandated layoffs?
that only affect the social and warcraft rumble teams
I wasn’t interested in housing either until I heard about the community features and common goals. That seems cool to me.
Okay. I heard the D4 team got hit too, don’t have a way to verify though.
in relation to wow those teams
I haven’t really encountered any myself other than the delve one when you exit.
And Ive enjoyed most of the “filler” content.
Tbh people look for anything to complain about. And of course it’s a classic dk posting doomer nonsense too. So i can’t even see if you actually did anything in tww vs just classic log and rage about retail.
Yeah I just can’t get there. Working on & decorating a house is way too much like real life. Adventurers shouldn’t have houses until they retire anyway. 
I was referring to the common goals of the community through Endeavors not necessarily just making a house pretty.
I like the idea of seeing the same people around and getting to know some people again. WoW is missing the casually social aspect right now for me and I’m hoping this will encourage that.
I actually criticize and make fun of classic all the time if you read my post history.
This expansion had an incredible amount of bugs especially on spec talents and interactions there. This is a literal fact.
This is not even mentioning the same bugs constantly returning to the game (every single new renown grind each patch has had a way to be exploited to max day 1)
Tooltips/buffs/nerfs being listed in tuning passes and then not making it to retail, or surprise surprise, some previous tuning undone by accident
Some of these events being completely buggy and unplayable on launch like the Hallowfall crap
There’s literally a reason why it’s called The Bugs Within
I agree that TWW/Midnight probably have a WOD/Legion style dev cycle where resources are shunted towards the newer expansion, but I don’t think “filler” is the right word for it, because The Worldsoul Saga is an experiment with a cohesive story through multiple expansions, and previous expansions are closer to “filler” than TWW.
I find this sentiment very strange. I get that lots of people are keen for player housing, and admit that it does little for me, but I still have to question what exactly you think it’s going to “revive” about the game. Like if someone doesn’t enjoy the content or gameplay of wow currently, what is going to change by being able to go to a house shaped location? It doesn’t change the main game itself. The things you can do with it are just going to be more of what we can already do.
Midnight is also a filler expansion so they can focus on player housing.
The next expansion will also be a filler expansion so they can focus on the next expansion which is slightly less of a filler expansion.
Hardly anyone calls it that but the doomergang
The overwhelming majority of people that have ever played WoW did not raid or care about endgame content---- it was a cozy game they could immerse themselves in. Player Housing throws a bone to those players.
A lot of my friends that played WoW are these type of players, and they quit WoW for FF14. Midnight and Player Housing are exactly the thing to bring them back.
Don’t count your weasels before they pop.
… or was it geese before they’re cooked?
While we do have an obvious case of cut content like WoD going into Legion, it was more of a switch-out this time for an entirely different and new piece of content. Not just cut-and-run with a very extended delay between the last raid and the new expansion. Since pre-orders are expected to go out with the announcement later this month, they won’t have a huge delay in the next expansion coming out; there’s some legal language out there which prevents them from dragging it out too long, it needs a “release by” date.
Until the end results are seen, you’re just speculating and running on hope.
Ya, I made the same observation a few comments up, it’s definitely a WOD/Legion scenario instead of a full on filler expansion.
Now that Microsoft owns Blizzard and Bethesda, I can make this comment: I agree, because ESO and F76 both have strong housing features, and large player bases.