So Im looking at the Talent Calculator for the first time for TWW, and it literally just looks like a copy/paste of DF talents, with the addition of the Hero talents? Is that correct?
And Im assuming we use the normal talent trees as normal, with extra spenders for putting into Hero Nodes?
Do u really expect there are gonna be some changes for shaman?
Shaman trees haven’t been adjusted yet, considering every class going to TWW is receiving changes to trees it’s easy to assume so will Shamans, just As Tradition it most likely be last to hit Alpha.
They coming just probably last, Also I love your mog, your an Orc Mariachi Player 10/10.
its common knowledge at this point that shamans get 0 attention. They slap something together last minute and call it a day.
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Did the other classes get a total re-work?
Some have seen significant changes while some have seen basically zero changes. None of us know what is in the pipeline for shamans.
I hope nothing bad.
The changes to balance, feral, demo and destro are worrying me a bit.
Who knows, maybe they’ll screw up enhance and ele too?
Even the recent changes to rogue were not great, aside cut to the chase.
That’s true Lenegis, but on the flipside the changes to monk have been excellent. The changes to DK have been limited, but what has been changed has all been for the better.
Its a coin flip at this point. All we do know is that shaman will be last and there likely won’t be any time left to do any fixes, so let’s hope whatever they do change is good.
Not quite all for the better, but definitely mostly positive for dk.
I guess Im a little disappointed. Essentially, its just the same playstyle with nothing really new other than Hero talents. So in essence, its gonna be DF shaman for another whole expansion.
I might actually vomit. I love my shaman, but how drab and boring to think this is true.
Its tough to say at this point, Hawke. We might have some major changes coming or we might have no changes coming. We just don’t know.
Of course, you could make the argument that not knowing is worse than being disappointed.
Dont know about other class, but if they somehow can make our current talenet tree worse , that will be kinda impressive cos it is in a really bad state already.
Its all the same to me, I suppose. Im not going to sit here and act like Im not going to play my Rsham anyways. I always do. I think Rsham Farseer looks a little bland, but powerful. Im pumped.
Yeah that new tree looks dumb af. Make Windfury totem baseline already, same with Feral Lunge.
Literally no one outside of PVP is going to pick it up and it would be really useful in PVE…
Biggest change for Enhancement so far appears to be that we’re losing one of our 30 talent points to spend in the spec tree by way of moving Focused Insight/Refreshing Waters to an unskippable position gating access to Windfury.
Enhancement Shaman The War Within Talent Calculator - 11.0.0 Beta (wowhead.com)
As of now WFT is linked directly to the improved maelstrom talent and the windfury weapon imbue has been removed from the tree. Storm builds will be forced to take the healing talent, but elementalist won’t.
Well shame on me for not actually reading the talent there and just going by the icon. But then, shame on Blizzard for making the Forceful Winds the exact same icon.
Still a bad change, either way.
Not at all. Things are constantly changing right now, and everything any of us say is purely speculation based on half the necessary info.
That’s actually a really good change, by wf imbue being baseline you can now take both lashing flames and swirling maelstrom.
But it’s bad news for storm because now they are even worse by comparison. Because storm has to take a utility talent, while elementalist doesn’t.
As i said in previous posts, first of all, make lashing flame a bit more interesting, it’s just kinda there. I don’t like, make the buff apply on yourself, and instead of damage make it flame shock tick rate.
Then you merge the primal maelstrom talent into the base pwave, add the current cdr set as a replacement node, but works with msw generated instead of wolves.
Merge static accumulation into dre/ascension and replace the node with cdr on ascension, or a higher proc rate for dre, depending on which one you took, also, make dre proc based on msw SPENT. Not generated.
Then re shuffle a few talents, for storm, since they are at a deficit.
Consider reducing a few 2 point nodes into 1, like molten assault for example, and make it spread shock to 5 targets directly.
Then, chain lightning to 6 targets, and make the crash lightning from chain apply to the whole duration. To help enhance with it’s pretty bad mass aoe, and uncap crash completely. Also consider removing crashing storms, or crash lightning from the tree, or even both, but one or the other should be considered.
Remove windfury totem and make it a normal raid buff like.
And that’s about all.