TWW Pathfinder for Normal flight

No my dude they had a huge sub loss, that’s why they came out with pathfinder…

People saying they were going to quit and they did that’s what made blizzard do a 180 on getting rid of flying completely.

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All I have to say is “about time”. Should have happened YEARS ago but as per usual Blizzard doesn’t correct anything until it’s either too late or almost too late.

Fair. Since we do have a flying all the time, I’d say they were sorely mistaken by trying to force a “grounded experience” on players that didn’t want it.

if you havent, read thru these two articles.

https://www.polygon.com/2015/5/22/8645293/world-of-warcraft-no-flying-tanaan-jungle-warlords-of-draenor-mmo-pc-blizzard

https://www.polygon.com/2015/6/10/8761289/world-of-warcraft-warlords-of-draenor-flying-update-mmo-pc-mac-blizzard

However, Hazzikostas goes on to acknowledge that many players still want flying mounts.

now why would someone that giddy about removing flight, actually believing the base would be ok with it…THEN turn around and repent? lol.

its NOT the Ion and crew changed their minds about being on the ground being ‘better’.
That is a fear response caused by player backlash in reading that first article and hearing that flight was being removed. lol

notice the dates of the artcles…what…3 weeks between them?
Didnt take too long to figure out that removing flight entirely was going to cause enough people to quit that it wasnt worth it.

You cherry picked that quote (maybe unintentionally)

I was speaking specifically about during DF, not WoD.

Your response

Seems to be referencing the WoD timeframe (I think?).

So is your goal in this thread to attack anyone who voices their opinion that opposes yours?
And because they don’t specifically state that, you rage at them and “ignore”?
Oof.

You can tell who the complainers are because if its not a motion sickness problem, you can get around the controls issue with keybinds.

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yeah…telling you that youre wrong isnt an attack lol
ignored.

i do find it ironic that, likethe other poster, you homed right in on me for saying what Id did, but then let that poster off the hook for his “Im disabled and can DR so stuff it” crap. lol

So no comments about how designing world content would be approached differently when flight is allowed vs disallowed?

Again, not that one is better than the other, but as a game designer, how one’s approach would be different?

Oh no… the horror.

You aren’t even worth debating as you act like this and its completely one sided rofl.

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Uhh…

That was literally what Blizzard said Pathfinder for TWW would require from the start.

All zone storylines completed, all zones explored, reach level 80 on one character. BAM! Congrats, you’ve got Pathfinder for TWW.

Now compare that to previous expansions where Pathfinder was either:
A. Not available right away and everyone had to wait for months to unlock it.
B. Required a rep grind with one or more factions.
C. Both.

And the trivial tasks you’re required to do to unlock TWW look precisely like that. Trivial.

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What’s to discuss regarding that? No flying = on the ground, have to deal with irrelevant mobs that serve no purpose other than take time, have to deal with terrain that (likely) you’ve traversed multiple times over that just adds tedium to your quest/daily/farming/whatever.

Flying = get your objective done in a timely manner.

Not sure what else to discuss about this.

Player’s approach or dev’s approach?

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ok…but it should apply to sky/dragon riding as well…just to be fair.

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I doubt it was from fourm whining…
They have the matrix where they can see who uses dynamic verse vs Static flying they can see the numbers…

No?

Blizzard flat out said that Dragonriding/Skyriding was going to be the default form of flight from now on and you’d get it early. Pathfinder is exclusively for ye old steady flight.

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Nice edit insinuating I’m targeting you.
Nope. This thread keeps getting bumped to the top and your annoying comments keep catching my eye.

The #ignored thing is cute by the way.

And? What did they say that was so triggering? They have arthritis and enjoy DR, which completely goes against your rage posts.

Like how dare they say something to refute these silly arguments. Then you jump on them insinuating they are speaking for everyone.
Like get over yourself :joy:

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So there you go.
Youre not ok with having to do that work yourself for your preferred flight mode.
Good to know.

You know, sometimes it really is better to not say anything at all…because sometimes things get said that change how others see and think about a person…respect is lost. Over silly things like not showing empathy for others or maybe being a little duplicitous in ones thought processses.
just sayin…

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“But as a game designer,(….)”

Regarding the first part, I’ll assume you understand what I’m saying but are insistent on not acknowledging it directly.

Someone should follow their own advice.

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…and then defending it…

You have a talent for reducing a persons statements down to the point where you’ve changed their meaning entirely.

One inconvenience for farmers and suddenly everyone is decrying the change for accessibility reasons. Reprehensible.

How about this: Just walk until you’re done with the campaign, like TBC, WotLK, Cata, MoP, WoD, etc etc etc. Your personal problem solved.

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