TWW lobby: S4 meta change?

Hey Internet question since we have entered the dreaded TWW lobby mode.

Do you guys feel there will be a meta shift for S4?

DH still the monster it is ?
Outlaw although hard to play still dominant
Destro king of caster’s?
Ret Warrior FW the oppressive 3’s spec?

Also why is survival on EU so much more dominant then NA?

Unless we get hit with a set of patch notes on day 1 that we aren’t expecting, I don’t think there is any reason to believe the meta will change

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Destro losing tier set for s1 is likely negative. Boomkin tier likely better. Most things stay the same.

The other meta change is with the increase in 2nd stats some classes that were just barely reaching cap but still benefit form their other stats are buffed, while classes that only really care about 2 stats are not going to benefit as much.

I think that means aff and ele are going to be a bit better off then s3.

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Excellent insight thank you.

the only “meta” change i want is mmr inflation starting day 1

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Rsham losing this season’s tier set for pve set from s1 will hurt really bad so it’s likely to go down a peg or two barring significant tuning adjustments. Destro taking a hit from their tier set as well. Outside of that, yeah not too much going on I think.

Don’t matter how much inflation they add when season is DOA from no participation.

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So far I am hearing rsham worse dropping a tear or 2

DESTRO worse off

So DH staying s tier

SP getting worse

WW getting even better

I’m told the arms tier is getting a lot worse

Boomy tier is getting better lol

Spriest going back to season 2 set is really going to hurt unless other spec adjustments are made.

They weren’t doing massive damage prior to the insanity changes before s3, lost 2/3 of that potential (all tied to hard casts) for s3 set so SW:D procs could be used instead. Now we’re going to the S2 set which has far less killing power and keeping the tuning/mini redesign for s3 while not having access to those mechanics.

I really wish the devs would have overhauled the 4pc to fit the spec instead of the other way around. I’ll still play it a bit but I think it was a real mistake not to allow the use of all the sets so we could just pick which one we wanted to use.

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Reading this makes me think they have to make pvp changes if they care even a little bit

Because Bicmex is there to handhold them all.

Identical tier with more stats, enjoy them now having 100%+ mastery and higher vers.

Secondary scaling is going to be wonky.

I also think WW will have nuclear dam (more than it does) since it’s getting the S2 tier set back.

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Spin to win back?

Or maybe he is them all.

But is sv really doing much better in eu? Seems numbers are similar between both continents.

At the high end yes and it’s not just all bic

:thinking: interesting

Bicmex is 4 of the top 12 lol.

Interesting :thinking: of the top 50¿ What’s that look like?

I wasn’t saying anything besides it’s interesting that there’d be a substantial difference between eu and us.

Not being pedantic or arguing.

The next part was a separate statement.

Just laughing how bicmex is 4 out of top 12 :rofl:

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He is a stud for sure :smiley:. He also dominated in NA with high ping

100%

His guides got me into sv and rival one season and duelist the next.

Now I’m trying mage and Aeghis is like mage bicmex. These younguns with there 2 hour guides are fantastic.

If I had to guess I’d just assume more/better ferals eu side so more jungle

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Nah, RSK doing 40-50% of your health. Can’t wait.

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