TWW Gearing Roadblock

That’s perfectly fine. That’s why I solo pug and don’t invite anyone lower ilvl than me, and that’s your choice. What’s not everyone’s choice is that you didn’t invite them because you’re using a third party site that datamines their key history and don’t like what you see for (insert generic reason here). That’s the only part I have a problem with.

I have no idea what your sick little fantasy is all about. But go on, unintentionally reveal even more about yourself than you intended.

If i do 8 M+ 6 dungeons I get 8 rolls at getting gear, not a guaranteed roll, but 8 shots at it, in reality, im probably going to get about 2 or 3 peinces of champ gear after doing 8 M+6 dungeons.
At the end of the week i get 1 heroic item form the vault.

If i do 8 T8 delves. guaranteed from that, i will get 6-8 champ pieces of gear, if i happen to have 8 keys, but you can easy get 6 keys a week, and a guaranteed 2 hero track items, 1 from the vault, and 1 from the map.

Also i have been saying that delves make low level keys pointless, i agree M+ is worth doing on 7+

Yeah dude, I’m not inviting you to my mythic plus group just because you have i level. If you don’t have rating you don’t need to be running the higher level dungeons.

My sick fantasy of just accepting some players die to bad and it’s not some clear grand conspiracy behind it?

So then work to make it better by forming your own group doing the Mythics on a lower level to increase your raider IO score if its that big of an issue. You can do that.

I did that when i first started doing mythics.

Even if raider IO did not exist, people would still find a way to filter you.

Even without that, i can only invite 4 other people out of the 100 applicants. Hide anything raider io related and theres still a chance you wont get picked, based on nothing but the fact i only have 4 slots in a million player game

So Blizzard has finally made it so that gear rewards need appropriate challenges to be overcome, first?

Great. About time.

(It won’t last, though. They’ll cave and nerf M+ into the ground like they always do. Probably starting next Tuesday.)

Fair point, if all you’re after is Champion gear. My point is that Hero gear requires +7 keys or Heroic Raid.

Considering that you appear to be disagreeing with me when I said there is a learning curve to do a brand new dungeon players may never have been in before, and you seem to be agreeing with blizzard that they should get zero practice time in that dungeon and instead gear up to do harder content doing content that is entirely unrelated to upcoming dungeons.

That and you’ve manufactured some bizarre fiction that I spend all my time in game “standing in bad”. The lady doth protest too loudly.

And there’s nothing wrong with that, that’s perfectly fine because it’s not discrimination.

Im on your side of that argument friend.

I have not been saying delves invalidate all of M+, i have been saying they invalidate M+1-6
Out side of trinkets.

Just like M+ invalidated most of raiding.

It’s almost like welfare gear is a bad idea.

2 Likes

It is. I want to make a rainbow and i dont need 2 purples in my group

Except what if now im inviting based only on Ilvl.
So i can discriminate against Ilvl, but not raidIO?

What about class? I dont wanna take a warlock, so thats fine?

Do you see how silly and hypocritical that sounds? And to my point of people will always find a metric to filter and discriminate you.

1 Like

Okay you got me there hahahaha just a different kind of discrimination. You classist! :rofl:

1 Like

that’s a weird long way to say Looking for a guild

1 Like

THIS.
I would much rather be raiding then doing M+ for getting gear. But here i am suffering.

2 Likes

Its probably been answered already and someone has probably already phrased it this way but, those +7 and up keys come from other people working hard to make them exist. YOU should absolutely have to do some “homework keys” to contribute and show you have rating and aptitude towards the systems and dungeons. This is non negotiable for M+ to continue to have any sense of community. Greedy attitudes of “I shouldn’t have to cause its USELESS” sucks, because you’re actively removing yourself in participating with others to grind keys up like every one before you.

1 Like

by your logic sims invalidate playing wow entirely…